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GCrites80s
GCrites80s HalfDork
2/22/21 8:39 p.m.

^That might be an unplugger once in closed loop too in order to see what happens.

JBruin
JBruin GRM+ Memberand New Reader
2/25/21 12:25 p.m.

Well I finally have a full day to work on this again. Unplugged the O2 sensors and ran the car. Same outcome, once hot it dies.

I can restart but it lopes bad and smells rich. It shuts off quickly also.  I am going to go through the EGR/Evap system. I am trying to recall as to in what order I replaced what parts before the issue appeared. 

I believe it was in this order, plugs/wires, PVC and EGR valve and fix a few vacuum leaks and replace intake elbow. Then issue appeared. The old EGR valve was plugged, the intake boot was severely cracked and chunks missing, vacuum lines cracked. 

Will get a vacuum gauge and start there. 

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
2/25/21 3:35 p.m.

Also check the coil 

JBruin
JBruin GRM+ Memberand New Reader
2/26/21 8:38 a.m.

Some things were just not adding up with this issue. Why all of a sudden after fixing all the vacuum leaks and tune-up. And the P0372 code always showing up. I was sitting here doing obscure searches and came across a thread on an Impala ss forum from 2010 that had the same issue as I am dealing with.

The optispark is vented and will cause a P0372 issue when not being vented properly. The check valve or air flow reduction filter is plugged. I checked mine and sure enough, the air flow reduction filter is plugged and the check valve is not working properly. 

Searched and found on Ebay. Ordered a optispark vacuum hose assembly at triple the cost of what they originally cost from GM. Will receive March 4th.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
2/26/21 8:57 a.m.

Let's hope. You've been bashing on this for a while.

JBruin
JBruin GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/2/21 12:31 p.m.

Optispark

 

Scope creep is setting in.....this will not end well or be inexpensive.

FMB42
FMB42 New Reader
3/2/21 4:33 p.m.

Been there, done that (non Optispark tho). Not a good place to be. But hey, it looks like you've diagnosed the issue and have replacement parts on the way. Fingers crossed...

06HHR (Forum Supporter)
06HHR (Forum Supporter) Dork
3/2/21 5:12 p.m.

Been there, done that, with a 97 Firebird Formula.  At least yours will restart and run for a bit, had to call a rollback for mine for a trip to the dealer.  Optispark (shattered optical sensor).  Keep the faith brother, good luck.

JBruin
JBruin GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/2/21 6:26 p.m.

Taking 1/3 of the front of the engine accessories off to get to the opti is a known expectation along with all the confined working areas.

It's the voices, "since you're this far.......", "it's all still factory stock, why?" "you got 4 empty credit cards."  they don't stop.

JBruin
JBruin GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/6/21 11:11 a.m.

For those who were playing along it is now up and running with no codes or service engine light. I guess I was hoping it was something other than the Opti-spark failing. Running better than it has since I have owned it.

Will drive it around for a few weeks before I begin the slow transformation to HPDE toy.

Thanks for the advise and input.

Jack

rico750sxi_2
rico750sxi_2 Reader
3/6/21 1:04 p.m.

That's good to hear. It must be a relief now that's it's running well. 

JBruin
JBruin GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/6/21 4:48 p.m.

Yes it is. Had a smile on my face as I drove it around. 

06HHR (Forum Supporter)
06HHR (Forum Supporter) Dork
3/6/21 6:13 p.m.

Glad to hear you fixed the issue. They are really nice driving cars for what they are. I miss my old Formula, wish I never sold it.  

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