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ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory SuperDork
10/10/14 7:35 p.m.

The Ford Trucks site I frequent when not here has an "official" video posted.

Nice to see all the Ford truck guys (many with Diesels themselves) rip the site and the driver. I know 99% of us here feel the same way.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1339282-black-friday-1996-f-350-powerstroke-shows-us-how-to-roll-coal.html

irish44j
irish44j PowerDork
10/10/14 7:47 p.m.

I remember hearing a few months ago locally that some bro-trucker rolled coal into a car window at a stoplight and the car driver followed him to wherever he went while the truck driver was in a store, the car driver shoved a bunch of golf balls into his exhaust and they all ended up banging around in a resonator or cat or something.

I lol'd when I heard it. No idea if it was true.

plance1
plance1 SuperDork
10/10/14 8:07 p.m.

I hate the stupid rednecks who do this rolling coal crap, glad to see I'm not the only one.

fujioko
fujioko Reader
10/10/14 8:20 p.m.

How do they do that?

I'm too much of an automotive geek to worry about all the issues with rolling coal, When I see a truck do it I'll watch and not pass judgment. I'm sure it pisses off some people, but for me its amusing.

logdog
logdog GRM+ Memberand Dork
10/10/14 8:26 p.m.

We have an oil furnace. I wonder if I can tune it so it rolls coal out of my chimney.

SlickDizzy
SlickDizzy GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/10/14 8:49 p.m.

In reply to fujioko:

They spray excess diesel fuel into the exhaust. What bothers me is having to inhale the thick black smoke behind brodozers in traffic, not to mention the sheer wastefulness of spraying fuel into your exhaust.

Ian F
Ian F UltimaDork
10/10/14 8:55 p.m.
fujioko wrote: How do they do that? I'm too much of an automotive geek to worry about all the issues with rolling coal, When I see a truck do it I'll watch and not pass judgment. I'm sure it pisses off some people, but for me its amusing.

It's essentially tuning a diesel engine so that under moderate load, the fuel pump is squirting more fuel than the engine really has air to burn, so the incompletely burnt fuel gets spit out the exhaust as "coal". Even a stock diesel can do it under the right circumstances - especially if the turbo has some age on it and isn't putting out boost like it used to. I used to do it with my TDI to tailgaters, although it was more a "poof" of smoke rather than a full-on plume. Still, driving through a small cloud of black smoke was usually enough to get most drivers to back off whether they wanted to or not. Usually followed by angry high-beam flashing...

The only time my car really "rolled coal" was when the MAF sensor went south and started sending false info to the ECU. The ECU thought the engine was getting more air than it really was, so it was dumping fuel like no tomorrow. The result was a trail of black smoke behind the car. And no power. Not fun.

LopRacer
LopRacer Dork
10/10/14 9:06 p.m.

They link a second video later in the thread, Dumb is as Dum does. The poster is very happy to gloat about smoking out the "ricer" Sadly the "ricer" in question is an late model Accord sedan pulling to his driveway. Sad just Sad.

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/10/14 9:08 p.m.
ebonyandivory wrote: The Ford Trucks site I frequent when not here has an "official" video posted. Nice to see all the Ford truck guys (many with Diesels themselves) rip the site and the driver. I know 99% of us here feel the same way. http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1339282-black-friday-1996-f-350-powerstroke-shows-us-how-to-roll-coal.html

Thanks for posting that. I spend some time on that forum, too (in the F-150 section). I contributed my two cents about this "rolling coal" foolishness in the thread.

Lancer007
Lancer007 Dork
10/10/14 9:55 p.m.

The worst part is that most average people will lump us car enthusiasts in with those knuckle dragging morons. And their 'we should have a law against that' mentality will screw us too if those morons keep up with this.

kanaric
kanaric Dork
10/10/14 10:19 p.m.

wow that second video, the youtube poster's comment-rants AND the article on that that truck enthusiasts site. Really makes truck people look dumb as dirt.

When I was a young kid I thought all people who liked American cars were dumb shiny happy people because everyone I knew was like these coal rollers except with their 5.0s and Camaros talking E36 M3 to everyone and acting like dicks. It's why I liked Nissans back then because all the Nissan people I knew were "cool" or rather normal non dick people. It polluted my thought on American cars for a long time.

I normally don't really hate on trucks but jesus christ this E36 M3 makes it hard not to.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
10/10/14 11:09 p.m.

The local coal rollers hate me. Bunch of em tried to roll on the ms3 once. Once. I knew it was coming because I heard the spool. I dumped the clutch MD launched it. I don't think they were expecting that. Next light I look over and smile and hear one of em say " look at the little fag in his little rice car". I could have gotten out and been intimidating but I chose a far more evil path. I simply went with "while that may be true, I'm not the ome sitting three dudes wide in a giant fake cock". I run into them occasionally.... They still don't look at me.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
10/10/14 11:41 p.m.

Oh and IMA get banned from there for sure. I couldnt resist poking the bear. My mouth is gonna get me killed one day.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
10/10/14 11:48 p.m.

I guy rolled coal as we left a light the other day. I was in my wagon. Loser.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro UberDork
10/10/14 11:56 p.m.

In reply to mndsm:

I just read your post over there.

Awesome.

The guy I work for is a GM Diesel Master Tech. His Diesel Sierra 3500 makes amazing power and has absolutely no smoke.

Rolling Coal is just "Truck Rice"

ddavidv
ddavidv PowerDork
10/11/14 5:53 a.m.

"Truck Rice". I borrowed that for my post over there.

Flight Service
Flight Service MegaDork
10/11/14 6:44 a.m.

To the OP,

Really nice retort. Just on thing. In your post you spelled it America.

Its 'Merica.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/11/14 6:58 a.m.
plance1 wrote: I hate the stupid rednecks who do this rolling coal crap, glad to see I'm not the only one.

When Diesel is banned from private ownership in the US, they will have themselves to blame.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/11/14 7:03 a.m.
Trans_Maro wrote: The guy I work for is a GM Diesel Master Tech. His Diesel Sierra 3500 makes amazing power and has absolutely no smoke. Rolling Coal is just "Truck Rice"

I have no enthusiasm for Diesel engines, but I do appreciate everything Banks has done with them. And a quote from one of our trade mags: "There is no reason for a Diesel to smoke. Soot is just money being thrown out the tailpipe."

And he has a point. Diesels run lean of stoich. You add air to cool them down. You have a big pinwheel on then exhaust manifold that adds air. If you run into smoke, turn the boost UP!

(yes, I do appreciate the irony of me saying this while driving a car that spits half of its fuel out the exhaust unprocessed by combustion. That is changing soon.)

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
10/11/14 7:09 a.m.
Trans_Maro wrote: In reply to mndsm: I just read your post over there. Awesome. The guy I work for is a GM Diesel Master Tech. His Diesel Sierra 3500 makes amazing power and has absolutely no smoke. Rolling Coal is just "Truck Rice"

Thanks. I was in a E36 M3 starting mood. So I went for it.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
10/11/14 7:13 a.m.

I've done silly things that I thought were cool.

I've owned cars that were worn to the point where their emissions were not optimized.

I own a diesel with 480K on it, that smokes if I stomp it.

I don't like regulators telling me what to do.

But I don't understand spending money to damage my truck for the sole purpose of trying to piss people off and be obnoxious.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory SuperDork
10/11/14 8:10 a.m.
Tom_Spangler wrote: Thanks for posting that. I spend some time on that forum, too (in the F-150 section). I contributed my two cents about this "rolling coal" foolishness in the thread.

You're welcome! I do as well and put my comments up as well. (broncoderek)

ShadowSix
ShadowSix Dork
10/11/14 8:16 a.m.

Just another way for uninteresting, uncreative, intellectually lukewarm young men to try to attract attention to themselves.

I suspect that what they've done violates law in many/most states, but with no enforcement or LEO training who cares?

RealMiniDriver
RealMiniDriver UltraDork
10/11/14 8:28 a.m.

Nice, they've gone and blocked the thread to visitors. I did get to see mndsm's and ddavidv's posts, though.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/11/14 8:31 a.m.
ShadowSix wrote: I suspect that what they've done violates law in many/most states, but with no enforcement or LEO training who cares?

A FOAF told me about a guy who did that in a tunnel, which resulted in a fatal TA. The guy got sent to the slam on a manslaughter conviction.

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