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93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
7/27/12 11:23 a.m.

Ok the Yugo is going to be road legalish basically so I can drive it to local autocrosses and back but I was thinking about removing the speedometer and putting a oil pressure and temp gauge in that spot in the dash. Is there any law about removing the odometer?

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy SuperDork
7/27/12 11:29 a.m.

The only thing I can contribute is this: You need to swap out KM/hour speedos in Canadian cars when they are imported into the states to meet federal regulations.

yamaha
yamaha Reader
7/27/12 11:29 a.m.

Is it exempt miles on the title?

If so, it probably is, but you could argue it.....for speed, just don't pass anyone.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
7/27/12 11:31 a.m.
yamaha wrote: for speed, just don't pass anyone.

For speed I was just going to carry my GPS with me.

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter UltraDork
7/27/12 11:32 a.m.

Insofar as I'm aware, there's nothing that says you have to have it, only that it's illegal to fraudulently represent the mileage of the vehicle when you sell it. On CA pink slips, there's a checkbox under the current odo reading field that lets you mark that the odometer is not accurate and gives you a couple of reasons you can mark why (rolled-over, broken, etc).

If you never sell it, I don't see where it'd ever be an issue. Of course, IANAL, consult your local laws, YMMV, etc, etc.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg UltimaDork
7/27/12 11:33 a.m.

GPS is easy and more accurate, and I mean the Tom Tom variety not the GRM Giant Purple Dongslinger variety

kazoospec
kazoospec Reader
7/27/12 11:35 a.m.

Isn't "Don't pass anyone" unnecessary advice for a Yugo owner?

Each state has its own laws as to what is "required equipment" for a roadworthy vehicle. You should be able to find that list on your state's DMV website. If there's no speedometer on the list, I'd print it out and put it in your car. Any ossifer who stops you is probably going to think its required.

chandlerGTi
chandlerGTi HalfDork
7/27/12 11:36 a.m.

I swapped an autometer gauge into my GTI but for some reason you have to double adapt it to an 020 transmission so I never did hook it up. I used my gps or just used the engines song to gauge my speed.

Stealthtercel
Stealthtercel HalfDork
7/27/12 11:39 a.m.

A nice gentleman in uniform (with whom I was having a discussion through my car window at the time) informed me that having, or not having, a speedometer in my vehicle was entirely up to me – because any speed it indicated had no bearing whatsoever on the speed HE said I was travelling at.

That was in Ontario, Canada. Check your local listings.

Ranger50
Ranger50 SuperDork
7/27/12 11:50 a.m.

For a speedo, I have been cheap. I D/L'd the Uylsses Speedo app on my Droid, the one that was in the GRM mag awhile back. Just keep it plugged in, it is a battery hog when running, and place it up on the dash.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt SuperDork
7/27/12 11:55 a.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote: The only thing I can contribute is this: You need to swap out KM/hour speedos in Canadian cars when they are imported into the states to meet federal regulations.

The last Canadian-market car I had didn't have that done. It did, however, have a smaller set of digits in MPH. That may have met the requirement.

thestig99
thestig99 Reader
7/27/12 12:05 p.m.

Do you have state inspections? In VT that wouldn't pass...

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
7/27/12 12:06 p.m.

There's a difference between what you need to have in order to get the car in the country legally, and what you need after that.

FWIW, i always check "Odometer is incorrect" on the title. I have no idea about its accuracy, and I'm not going to say that it's accurate if I don't know.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
7/27/12 12:07 p.m.
thestig99 wrote: Do you have state inspections? In VT that wouldn't pass...

In Alabama, surely you aren't serious.

Plus plenty of other things on this car probably would equal it not passing...

car39
car39 HalfDork
7/27/12 4:34 p.m.

You would have to sell the car "TMU" true mileage unknown, which usually cuts the value of the car in half. Since we're talking about a Yugo and half of nothing is still nothing ........

93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
7/27/12 4:37 p.m.
car39 wrote: You would have to sell the car "TMU" true mileage unknown, which usually cuts the value of the car in half. Since we're talking about a Yugo and half of nothing is still nothing ........

Especially since it is a Yugo with a gutted interior and spring rates likely to break your back. I don't think that will effect resell.

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
7/27/12 5:21 p.m.

If anything it would be a state by state statute. I'd wager the vast majority of states don't have such a requirement on the books.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
7/27/12 6:29 p.m.

OK in New York.

T.J.
T.J. PowerDork
7/27/12 6:50 p.m.

I drove my 2002 in AL for 2 years with a functioning speedometer, but a broken odometer. In two years I put something like 17 miles on it. Just checked the box on the title that the actual mileage is not known when I sold it.

wbjones
wbjones UltraDork
7/27/12 7:49 p.m.

we may HAVE to have them here in NC ... but at inspection they don't/have never checked to see if it works ... merely record the miles data .... no matter if it hasn't changed in the past 5 yrs

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy SuperDork
7/27/12 8:15 p.m.
MadScientistMatt wrote:
Streetwiseguy wrote: The only thing I can contribute is this: You need to swap out KM/hour speedos in Canadian cars when they are imported into the states to meet federal regulations.
The last Canadian-market car I had didn't have that done. It did, however, have a smaller set of digits in MPH. That may have met the requirement.

Thats interesting. Maybe its only newer vehicles or something, but I know its been a bugaboo for some people. I thought it may have to do with misrepresenting true mileage, although it would only affect the seller badly.

Twin_Cam
Twin_Cam UltraDork
7/27/12 9:09 p.m.

Won't pass an inspection in PA, and I think something weird will appear on the car's title if you don't know mileage...

RexSeven
RexSeven SuperDork
7/27/12 10:15 p.m.

Jeez, this reminds me of my first car, a 1992 Nissan 240SX with the head-up display. Like many of that car's other parts, it had decayed and broken a long time ago and I basically judged my speed by Mk1 Eyeball. I have no idea how that passed inspection because IIRC Mass. requires the speedo and odo to work, and unlike with emissions inspections pre-OBDII cars are NOT exempt from safety inspections.

I'm still surprised I never got pulled over for speeding or even driving too slow (I did get a warning once for a bad sticker...).

TRoglodyte
TRoglodyte Dork
7/27/12 11:30 p.m.

Its America. run what ya brung.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic Reader
7/27/12 11:36 p.m.

I'm putting my gauge set on the dash.

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