NOHOME
NOHOME MegaDork
1/21/21 2:00 p.m.

My friend Mustang brought this thing along a while back and I dont think he will be allowed to take it home. Ever.

 

So far it has proven to be the easy cheap and bullet-proof way to make brake line flares. $40 Cnd. 

 

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt UltimaDork
1/21/21 2:07 p.m.

How does it work?

And does the special punch grease actually smell good enough to tempt people into eating it?

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) PowerDork
1/21/21 2:13 p.m.

....and where does one find one of these tools?

paddygarcia
paddygarcia GRM+ Memberand New Reader
1/21/21 2:21 p.m.

I got a similar took from ECS last year (https://www.ecstuning.com/b-bav-auto-tools-parts/on-vehicle-micro-brake-pipe-flaring-tool-bavarian-autosport/b8800083~bav/). With copper-nickel line it's like butter to use and does fit into smaller places as needed.

The punch grease is too thick to drink or even mix with, but definitely makes that other guy's face feel smoother when you belt him one.

Cooter
Cooter UberDork
1/21/21 4:10 p.m.

 Summit has one that looks identical, but the Q&A claims it doesn't have to do bubble flares?

NOHOME
NOHOME MegaDork
1/21/21 4:44 p.m.

In reply to DeadSkunk (Warren) :

Princess Auto of course!

The key seems to be that the mandrel that does the first operation is not floating on the end of a cone. Only does the one size but that is the only brake line size I have ever done.

 

If I need a bubble flare, I will just stop after the first operation, It is what I used to do when I only had the standard kit and bubble flares were a rare thing.

 

 

RoddyMac17
RoddyMac17 Reader
1/21/21 4:58 p.m.

Pete

The tool out your way must be cheaper than on the Wet Coast, they want $60 canuck bucks for them (or at least that's what the website says Flaring Tool).

 

 

sevenracer
sevenracer Reader
1/23/21 8:01 a.m.

So, this does 45 degree flares not the 37 degree that Japanese cars use. Sounds like it is pretty common for people to make 45 degree flares for Japanese cars and just crank down on the fittings.  Is that an acceptable strategy?

noddaz
noddaz GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
1/23/21 6:45 p.m.
sevenracer said:

So, this does 45 degree flares not the 37 degree that Japanese cars use. Sounds like it is pretty common for people to make 45 degree flares for Japanese cars and just crank down on the fittings.  Is that an acceptable strategy?

As long as you are driving in front of me, yes.

Brake line flares are no place for short cuts.

sevenracer
sevenracer Reader
1/24/21 1:24 p.m.

So, I the info I got from a "racing" webpage  - indicating Miata's have the 37 degree fittings - appears to be incorrect.

 

This company that sells brake lines states "Automotive fittings are always a 45 deg. double or DIN flare. Never use a single 45 degree flare with automotive nuts and fittings. A 37 degree single flare is acceptable for use in AN/JIC nuts and fittings with Cunifer seamless tubing"

 http://www.fedhillusa.com/webnuts/common%20flares6.pdf

Also, I think Keith Tanner indicated the same in another post I found from a couple of years ago.

 

Need to make a line for the first time (always just bought pre-made in the past).  Looks like this tool is a good option at $50 vs some of the other kits I've found for $180+.

P3PPY
P3PPY GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/2/22 11:05 p.m.
NOHOME said:

My friend Mustang brought this thing along a while back and I dont think he will be allowed to take it home. Ever.

 

So far it has proven to be the easy cheap and bullet-proof way to make brake line flares. $40 Cnd. 

 

Bless you so much for recommending this!! I was looking at hundreds of dollars to replace my lines with pre-flared sticks from Napa, but now this along with nickel copper lines-- IM GONNA BE RICH WITH ALL THE MONEY IM SAVING!!

That's my first try with that combo. 

Teh E36 M3
Teh E36 M3 UltraDork
9/2/22 11:10 p.m.

I have the ECS model and I love it. Just made a E36 M3load of flares with it and they look so good and were so simple. 

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/2/22 11:24 p.m.

In reply to P3PPY :

Where's your fitting?

P3PPY
P3PPY GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/2/22 11:43 p.m.
Stampie said:

In reply to P3PPY :

Where's your fitting?

Ha :)

This was research. I'd just tried a few times with the floppy parts store loaner with no success, seeing if using a real duburring and filing tool made a difference so I could save the cost of this tool. It did not. So then it worked with this thing right out of the gate. 
Admittedly I did not try nickel copper tube with the floppy tool, I'll try it just to see. But this is so fool-proof, I wouldn't want to use the other even if it did work and even though it's free. 

paddygarcia
paddygarcia GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/2/22 11:44 p.m.

Ya gotta pay attention to the fitting.

I shelled out something like $350 for the deluxe Mastercool kit, which I'm pretty sure is too bulky to use under-car. I think I might buy this style as well. And whenever possible, I will try to put the tube nut on in the right direction. frown

Olemiss540
Olemiss540 HalfDork
9/3/22 8:43 a.m.

I always just rent E36 M3ty tools at Oreillys and then never take them back. Best way to really overpay for chinese garbage IMO.

Noddaz
Noddaz GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
9/3/22 9:03 a.m.

In reply to paddygarcia :

And now you have been immortalized:

WonkoTheSane
WonkoTheSane GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
9/3/22 10:55 a.m.
paddygarcia said:

Ya gotta pay attention to the fitting.

Two points awarded for remembering the fitting, though....

TJL (Forum Supporter)
TJL (Forum Supporter) Dork
9/3/22 10:56 a.m.

I bought one of this stile of amazon for a reasonable price and it rocks. I never sucessfully did a tube flare before and this made it a breeze. It still cant magically put a fitting on after the flare though. Found that out at least a few times. 

Noddaz
Noddaz GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
9/3/22 3:57 p.m.

I tried a search to see if these is one of these available that makes bubble flares for Euro/Japanese cars and was rewarded with Amazon and Ebay ads that seemed to all be selling the same thing.

Anyone have one of these that makes bubble flares?

P3PPY
P3PPY GRM+ Memberand Dork
9/3/22 7:47 p.m.

Is it one of these you're looking for? This tool does #s 2 and 3. You get 3 by just not doing the final step

Noddaz
Noddaz GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
9/6/22 6:53 p.m.

In reply to P3PPY :

Thank you!  

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