In reply to Ian F:
You are right
In reply to Ian F:
You are right
SVreX wrote: Standardization and swapping is gonna be tough. Its not like swapping your lead acid battery. A Tesla battery has 7000 cells and is essentially the floorpan of the car.
Teslas are already set up for "hot" battery swapping. They even have the machinery made to do it automatically faster than a tank of gas fills. But you're right that standardizing on that would be difficult since other manufacturers would have to make their cars the same size and general shape. Maybe that's what you meant. ;)
MadScientistMatt wrote: With charging times, trying to make a cross country trip in an EV with a 50 mile range under its own power is still going to be something that only makes sense in an extreme emergency. And the sort of emergency that does not require you to get there in a hurry. Making this viable will require longer ranges and faster recharge times.
Several people on the Soul EV forum have taken their cars on vacation road trips, often staying off the highway and using the slow journey as an excuse to spend time exploring during charging times. A common trip is from SoCal to the Bay Area wine country, but one adventurous owner spent a week with his daughter roadtripping from Atlanta to New York and back.
Some European Soul EV owners have taken noteworthy roadtrips: here's one from Budapest to Nuremberg, and these guys drove a 2787 mile loop from the Netherlands through France, Italy, across the Alps and back.
SVreX wrote: But the Tesla is the only one that can do it, and Its pretty much the most expensive one out there. There are virtually no other mass marketed electrics with the capacity to go 100 miles and highway speeds on a charge. You won't be skipping any charging stations in a Leaf. It's a political stunt. Without better range, it is useless.
You are saying that most of today's EV's aren't ready to make use of an infrastructure that will be built in the future, ignoring that each new generation of EVs features longer range, if not also faster charging times. By the time the charging stations along these 'official EV routes' are completed, who's to say that more cars won't have the range to take advantage of them? Or in the years that follow?
dculberson wrote:SVreX wrote: Standardization and swapping is gonna be tough. Its not like swapping your lead acid battery. A Tesla battery has 7000 cells and is essentially the floorpan of the car.Teslas are already set up for "hot" battery swapping. They even have the machinery made to do it automatically faster than a tank of gas fills. But you're right that standardizing on that would be difficult since other manufacturers would have to make their cars the same size and general shape. Maybe that's what you meant. ;)
Yes. I was commenting on swapping, and the differences that challenge standardization, not whether or not a Tesla was swappable.
In reply to SVreX:
Gotcha. Figured it out halfway through my response to you and decided to post anyway. Hehe.
BrokenYugo wrote:mazdeuce wrote:Depends on the charging station. Max cruise speed in a T is something like 35-40mph, call the average pace with refueling and whatnot 35 miles/hr. Max cruise in a Tesla is the legal limit of 70, we'll assume the top end model with the 300 mile range, takes an hour to charge at a Supercharger station, so you can go at best 300 miles in 5.28 hours, 56.8 mph. The Tesla wins with Supercharger stations, according to goggle the average public recharge station is only good for 22 miles of charge per hour though, so on those the Tesla loses bad (about 17mph).iceracer wrote: One of the other car magazines did a long distance race between a Tesla and a Model T. Sort of the hare and the tortoise. While the Tesla was charging the T just kept puttering along.Who won? This is important.
not all tesla's can handle the superchargers and 1 hour doesn't really buy you a full tank. It gets you about 80% The full charge can take longer as it has to slow to down as to not destroy the battery. I've heard 1:30 to 2 hours.. The superchargers still win, but not by much. I've also heard that charge rate is dependant on how many people are using the supercharger. Only person in a 5 bay station, sure fast.. all 5 being used, slower...
SVreX wrote: In reply to Ian F: There are virtually no other mass marketed electrics with the capacity to go 100 miles and highway speeds on a charge. You won't be skipping any charging stations in a Leaf.
It's called the Chevy Bolt with a B.
200+ miles is the news
In reply to oldopelguy:
Swappable batteries has been tried. Did work well so far. Might work next time
A Better Place https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Place
So, we as a country, are going to beg, borrow, and steal the money, to install 500 charging stations, for a technology that is changing almost hourly.
By the time they fund it, study it, lobby it, design it, and build it, it will be obsolete.
Sounds like a typical government boondoggle to me.
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