Luke
Luke Dork
5/22/09 6:27 a.m.

I stumbled upon this neat-o vid during my interweb wanderings, and thought it was worth sharing.

No sound. Probably filmed at a "Challenge" event in September, 1964 at the Town & Country Shopping Center in Mishawaka, IN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S27Nkns4Tew

All the cars are cool, but look out for the Arnolt Bristol, and soon afterwards, some kind of Ferrari?

JFX001
JFX001 Dork
5/22/09 6:39 a.m.

Yeah....and a Gullwing.

Cool vid.

John Brown
John Brown GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/22/09 6:48 a.m.

Awesome.

pete240z
pete240z Dork
5/22/09 7:10 a.m.

it all looks so slow.....

davidjs
davidjs New Reader
5/22/09 7:38 a.m.
pete240z wrote: it all looks so slow.....

And they're still scraping door sills...

mattmacklind
mattmacklind SuperDork
5/22/09 10:10 a.m.

Geez that Mustang looked like a real jalopy, no offense but it couldn't stay out of its own way. Looked like a teeter totter on wheels.

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/22/09 10:20 a.m.

That was a seriously cool video.

dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/22/09 10:46 a.m.

World's tightest course??

What was the car at 1:40, and what was the one at 2:40?

MiatarPowar
MiatarPowar HalfDork
5/22/09 10:54 a.m.

Most excellent. Seeing a Gullwing Benz out there... awesome.

The 356s seemed to do really well.

JFX001
JFX001 Dork
5/22/09 11:03 a.m.
dyintorace wrote: World's tightest course?? What was the car at 1:40, and what was the one at 2:40?

An early Ferrari (*212 Vignale?) at 1:40 and an MGA Coupe at 2:40.

  • looking for answers now.

*EDIT....dunno, 166/212/340? I remember seeing pics of one like that with the high belt line, but I can't remember the maker of the body.

Rusty_Rabbit84
Rusty_Rabbit84 Reader
5/22/09 11:44 a.m.

wow... the difference between yesterday and today...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w77yars57Ow

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/22/09 12:08 p.m.

1:40 looks like a ~1950 Ferrari Type 166 Berlinetta judging by the grillwork, high beltline crease, and sweeping windows. The fins and rear fender bulges point to a custom body though.

Per Schroeder
Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director
5/22/09 12:43 p.m.

Funny, Mishawaka is right up the street from the Tire Rack and I think that's where Woody/John and Angie Rodgers live.

BobOfTheFuture
BobOfTheFuture Reader
5/22/09 2:04 p.m.

About the speed- Im pretty sure that video was modified to get rid of that comical "fast foward" effect that old film gets, and the editor overslowed the footage. Watch when cars lock the brakes- the speed they seem to carry doesnt look right.

that said, awesome!

I dont think ive ever seen a midget lean that much...

jrw1621
jrw1621 HalfDork
5/22/09 2:08 p.m.

The Mustang.
The title claims that this was in 1964 and the Mustang was introduced as a 1964.5 model in April 1964. Therefore, this is a really early Mustang. More proof that it is an early Mustang is evident by the fact that it appears to have no white back up lights which became required in 1965. It appears that the Mustang does carry a 289 badge on the front fender.

What I am getting at is that the Mustang was obviously a very new car at the time and at about 1:10 into the video the Mustang is billowing smoke out the back end.

jstein77
jstein77 HalfDork
5/22/09 2:09 p.m.
Rusty_Rabbit84 wrote: wow... the difference between yesterday and today... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w77yars57Ow

The difference between the gymkhana (British style) and autocrossing! No helmets, people standing right next to spinning vehicles (are the referees paid to do that?), curbs right next to the path of travel, spectators lining the course, etc. None of that would fly in the United States of Litigation today.

And about the Mustang smoking - that was most likely oil backing up the PVC line and into the intake manifold during cornering. Used to have a Rabbit that would do that.

JFX001
JFX001 Dork
5/22/09 2:35 p.m.

Could be a 260 Badge on the Mustang. Gotta give the guy credit for attempting that Challenge.

  • Edit....it looks like tire smoke...
MiatarPowar
MiatarPowar HalfDork
5/22/09 3:24 p.m.
JFX001 wrote: * Edit....it looks like tire smoke...

That's what I thought it was, too.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado Reader
5/22/09 3:31 p.m.
Luke wrote: I stumbled upon this neat-o vid during my interweb wanderings, and thought it was worth sharing. No sound. Probably filmed at a "Challenge" event in September, 1964 at the Town & Country Shopping Center in Mishawaka, IN. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S27Nkns4Tew All the cars are cool, but look out for the Arnolt Bristol, and soon afterwards, some kind of Ferrari?

ROFL! at 3:04 "..plus one cone for the Volkswagen.."

Some things never change.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg Dork
5/22/09 4:46 p.m.

1970 Aussie Touring Cars

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-LL1i2YARI&feature=related

Watch the Facon at 4.43, drifting is nothing new

SupraWes
SupraWes Dork
5/22/09 5:24 p.m.
jrw1621 wrote: The Mustang. The title claims that this was in 1964 and the Mustang was introduced as a 1964.5 model in April 1964. Therefore, this is a really early Mustang. More proof that it is an early Mustang is evident by the fact that it appears to have no white back up lights which became required in 1965. It appears that the Mustang does carry a 289 badge on the front fender. What I am getting at is that the Mustang was obviously a very new car at the time and at about 1:10 into the video the Mustang is billowing smoke out the back end.

Looked like inside tire smoke to me.

jstein77
jstein77 HalfDork
5/22/09 6:21 p.m.

OK, went back and looked at it again - it was tire smoke.

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
5/22/09 11:52 p.m.

That last 356 had a really cool 'stinger' exhaust. I also noticed the roll bars looked VERY spindly- even the one in the FP TR3. Single hoop, single forward brace....

mel_horn
mel_horn HalfDork
5/23/09 8:41 p.m.
BobOfTheFuture wrote: About the speed- Im pretty sure that video was modified to get rid of that comical "fast foward" effect that old film gets, and the editor overslowed the footage. Watch when cars lock the brakes- the speed they seem to carry doesnt look right.

Also compare the street cars in the background. They're even going too slow...

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/23/09 9:45 p.m.
jrw1621 wrote: What I am getting at is that the Mustang was obviously a very new car at the time and at about 1:10 into the video the Mustang is billowing smoke out the back end.

Not sure it was smoke. looked like the driver was using the brakes and the gas together to get power to the ground through the open diff.. probably looking at a single biasply tyre going up in smoke

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