ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/29/13 8:31 p.m.

So, there's an attribute I'm not sure how to describe in some contemporary new car colors like this:

The taupe/tag/beige color the 500 is getting painted is another example, and I know I've seen non-500 examples lately.

The attribute is this sort of... opacity... dustiness... milkiness? warmth? I've even seen blues which had this sort of warm quality.

Gah, those aren't the right words. I think it's more than just the shade on the continuum between Forest and Mint, but maybe I'm wrong.

I'm trying to put my finger on it, because if I can figure out what it is, I have in my head that the 2002 would look good in a darker shade of blue that still had this... slate-like-ness?

Hopefully I'm not crazy and someone can help me figure out this attribute so I have some hope of coming up with the right color...

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
10/29/13 8:41 p.m.

Is non-metallic the word you're after?

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade UltraDork
10/29/13 8:45 p.m.

That's almost a glossy urethane finish. My suggestion is to find a good body shop and ask the paint guys. They can look up the paint code quick, most times. (I used to work at a Dupont store)

JFX001
JFX001 UltraDork
10/29/13 8:51 p.m.

"I like that cool pastel-like green on the new Fiat 500."

Or just find out the color from the manufacturer and say that (Verde Chiaro).

Spoolpigeon
Spoolpigeon SuperDork
10/29/13 8:54 p.m.

I was thinking pastel like too

novaderrik
novaderrik PowerDork
10/29/13 9:00 p.m.

"pre faded"

Mr_Estrotica
Mr_Estrotica Reader
10/29/13 9:01 p.m.

I know exactly what you are trying to describe, but can't come up with a better term than "woody".

It certainly isn't tinny. You are certainly wordlier than me.

clownkiller
clownkiller HalfDork
10/29/13 9:01 p.m.

monochromatic?

aussiesmg
aussiesmg MegaDork
10/29/13 9:01 p.m.

"milky"

t25torx
t25torx Reader
10/29/13 9:06 p.m.
David S. Wallens wrote: Is non-metallic the word you're after?

To me that's what it seams like he's after. Seems lately your only solid color choices are red, black and white, anything else and it's a metallic. I guess that's due to the price of metallic colors dropping since the 60's and early 70's, when muscle cars came in a load of different solid colors. Ford though still has a nice solid blue on the Mustang.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
10/29/13 9:14 p.m.

Earthy is the word I keep coming to.

When I paint my race car I'm doing it all in battleship gray with clearcoat to add shine over the top of a flat earthy color.

Can we invent a new word here? Seems like we need one.

t25torx
t25torx Reader
10/29/13 9:15 p.m.
Datsun1500 wrote: I'd describe it as "creamy"

Yep, looks like "cream of pea" soup on that Fiat. That color is horrible IMHO, I've seen colors like that in my sons diaper.

Flyin Mikey J
Flyin Mikey J New Reader
10/29/13 9:33 p.m.

"Muted" is the proper term for that shade of opaque (non metallic) green.

The term is used when the color is grayed out a bit, as to make it less vivid.

At least that is what my graphic arts teacher said 30 some years ago, and I have been in the sign/graphics/pinstriping business my whole adult life.

mndsm
mndsm UltimaDork
10/29/13 9:41 p.m.

I'm thinking enamel finish- like an appliance.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
10/29/13 10:06 p.m.

Non-metallic pearl.

The pearl is what gives non-metallic colors their gloss and depth without having to do 50 coats.

PS: the color on that Fiat is called "Winter Chill Pearl" paint code "JBA"

This is a great resource I use: http://www.paintscratch.com/

I always try to double check the paint code, though.

No affiliation, no canoe.

Brett_Murphy
Brett_Murphy GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
10/29/13 10:11 p.m.

Here is another example of a pearl coat, but this one probably cost $10k

<img src="Pearl Finish Classic Car">

JFX001
JFX001 UltraDork
10/29/13 10:31 p.m.

In reply to Brett_Murphy:

'Winter Chill Pearl' looks too Blue. I went with 'Verde Chiaro' for the Fiat above.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/29/13 10:57 p.m.

Low saturation.

fasted58
fasted58 PowerDork
10/29/13 11:08 p.m.

meth cook low key hue

plance1
plance1 Dork
10/29/13 11:18 p.m.

just get paint code and call it done

ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/29/13 11:24 p.m.

The gloss and the absence of metallic are not what I'm after. Having given only one picture to work with, I know I've totally failed to give a good description of what I'm after.

I feel like the "milky", "low-saturation", "muted", "earthy" descriptors are folks who are talking about the same attribute I am.

I'm wondering whether there is a hint of brown to each of these colors... If you mix just yellow into a blue, it'll go green. If you mix red in, it'll go purple. But if you mix red and yellow you can get a brown...

Huh... I think I might be right. I got a blue that seemed to have some of that feel to it by going here and mixing almost entirely cobalt blue with just a tiny amount of primary yellow and a pretty middle-of-the-road red... At a lighter tint value, it looked like the sort of thing we see in the Fiat.

ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/29/13 11:26 p.m.
plance1 wrote: just get paint code and call it done

Just get the paint code for a color I've never seen?

The question was about an attribute of the color so I could figure out how to pursue a different color with a similar attribute.

Or maybe my description of what I was after was as bad as my description of the attribute itself...

JFX001
JFX001 UltraDork
10/29/13 11:32 p.m.

How about 'chalky'?

ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/29/13 11:33 p.m.

In reply to JFX001:

Oo, that's a good one! That does describe it pretty well...

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