David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
11/3/16 2:35 p.m.

Glad everyone's okay: link.

And what's the saying about any landing that you can walk away from being a good one?

etifosi
etifosi SuperDork
11/3/16 2:36 p.m.

And if the plane can take off again after landing it is a GREAT one! (this one was only good.)

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/3/16 2:44 p.m.

No cones... how many seconds do you get for a fence?

fasted58
fasted58 UltimaDork
11/3/16 2:47 p.m.

missed it by that >|**|<

glad everbody is OK

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
11/3/16 3:12 p.m.

Would have been less damage if he ground looped it.

trucke
trucke Dork
11/3/16 3:29 p.m.

He seemed to be carrying a lot of airspeed. Apparently he didn't know how to slip it in and set up for a clean 3 point landing. Yes, even with a loss of engine taildragger pilots should know how to do that.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
11/3/16 3:34 p.m.

To be fair, you forget a lot of things when your airplane's engine quits and you've just E36 M3 your pants.

92dxman
92dxman SuperDork
11/3/16 3:34 p.m.

That was a close call

bluej
bluej UltraDork
11/3/16 3:49 p.m.

kinda looked like he tried to clip the fence to stop him from carrying on into the parked cars just a bit further on.

trucke
trucke Dork
11/3/16 3:54 p.m.
Appleseed wrote: To be fair, you forget a lot of things when your airplane's engine quits and you've just E36 M3 your pants.

Practice, practice, practice. I guess I was fortunate to have an instructor that focused on fundamentals. I learned to fly on a short strip with trees at both ends. Most instructors have you fly a 10 mile final approach.

I have experienced a couple of moments in a plane where losing my cool would have gotten me dead.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
11/3/16 4:03 p.m.
bluej wrote: kinda looked like he tried to clip the fence to stop him from carrying on into the parked cars just a bit further on.

Agreed - appears he targeted the fence. Looks like he swerved intentionally to avoid the opening in the fence. Probably seemed like a "softer" saftey net than the trees or the pond on either side.

Glad everyone walked away!

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
11/3/16 4:14 p.m.

In reply to trucke:

But I do agree with practice. My instructor was always chopping power on me. And slide slips are fun if done right.

WildScotsRacing
WildScotsRacing HalfDork
11/3/16 5:50 p.m.

In reply to Appleseed:

Hellz yeah! My uncle (Air Force pilot) would slap the throttle to idle on me... 10 feet above the runway just as I was about to flare... in the Stearman!!! Tall, skinny gear with hooge bouncy tires and a wing loading of about zero lb/sqft. Didn't always love it when he did that, but by damn I developed a highly tuned sense of ground effect from it. Now, I have no fear of any sort of landing situation.

Fitzauto
Fitzauto Dork
11/3/16 10:29 p.m.

That looked exciting

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/4/16 7:32 a.m.
Appleseed wrote: Would have been less damage if he ground looped it.

He would've needed individual wheel brakes to do that safely in the amount of space he had (don't know if this plane has them). I would've tried to thread it through the open gate instead of plowing through the fence. Even hitting right rudder to turn into the bush after the white-roofed structure would've saved the wings at the expense of the prop.

trucke
trucke Dork
11/4/16 7:48 a.m.
GameboyRMH wrote:
Appleseed wrote: Would have been less damage if he ground looped it.
He would've needed individual wheel brakes to do that safely in the amount of space he had (don't know if this plane has them). I would've tried to thread it through the open gate instead of plowing through the fence. Even hitting right rudder to turn into the bush after the white-roofed structure would've saved the wings at the expense of the prop.

That aircraft has individual brakes for left and right main gear. At the point he was near the fence he was out of options. His speed appeared to be too fast to do much with the brakes. He may have ground looped it trying to guide it through the fence. At this point the safest option was to ride it into the fence, which he did.

In an engine out situation, you ensure you make your landing zone, then bleed altitude without increasing airspeed in a side slip, this would have allowed him to flare and land sooner. That could have avoided the incident with the fence. With the speed he had it looks like he dove for the field which increased his airspeed. He was in ground effect for quite a distance.

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