Plating service?

Wow, this thread went south in a hurry.

Neighboring County has a real problem with cancer due to thousands of barrels of chemicals that were buried by lazy/profiteering businessmen. Fact is those people who actually buried the barrels, all of them but one have died from cancer, the survivor has three types of terminal cancer, i know I transport him to his appointments.

These same barrels have now begun leaching into the underground water supply that everyone in the county has as tap water, the incidence of cancer has skyrocketed over the past few years.

We may need the EPA here for a few more years

Thanks to Apis_Mellifera and the rest of the EPA,

Plance1:

I've been several years in the custom chemical business. We ship truckloads of haz waste LEGALLY every day. We deal with Chromium (just like the platers), and over 1500 other chemicals. Significantly more than any plater would EVER have to deal with.

Not that it matters.

You are not helping this thread.

plance1 wrote:

SVreX wrote: You made your central point a long time ago. As a businessman who has at many times had to deal directly with various regulatory issues (including hazardous chemical waste disposal), my central point is that I disagree. The EPA is a royal PITA sometimes, and often over-reaches. Same with all government.

LOL! I love it when people say they disagree but then go on to restate my point. Love the talk about business models, but I noticed you didn't mention that your business is plating. You people crack me up. Anyone capable of a logical thought out there? Guess what, all of the small plating shops go out of business because of some silly, overzealous bureacrats like the one above's need for "control" and "monitoring" and guess where your next chrome MG bumper is going to come from????? China my friend, where as our "new reader" pointed out, has zero controls! So go ahead EPA, be unresonable and clamp down on businesses that you find unfavorable all you're doing is pushing companies to other companies to other countries where, as it was stated, has zero controls and the net effect on the overall planet will be much worse. Oh well, as long as its not in our backyard I guess the problem is solved right???

So to paraphrase, we should do what the Chinese do to lessen the problem overall.

Please explain for those of us who are obviously less intelligent than you are

plance1 wrote: "regulation is a direct reaction to monitoring" but "monitoring then does or does not show the effectiveness of regulation" lol!

I think you got in such a hurry to type in lol that you didn't bothering thinking about how feedback loops work. Don't be frightened, it's a real thing. In fact, your body is using that very principle right now to sustain your life so that you can continue to type such nonsense.

Feedback loops work beautifully when they have the proper gain and adequate dampening. They also require a well-chosen feed-forward term. Like human beings, the government has thousands of them. And like the closed-loop controls in humans, some of the government systems are better than others.

aussiesmg wrote: Neighboring County has a real problem with cancer due to thousands of barrels of chemicals that were buried by lazy/profiteering businessmen. Fact is those people who actually buried the barrels, all of them but one have died from cancer, the survivor has three types of terminal cancer, i know I transport him to his appointments. These same barrels have now begun leaching into the underground water supply that everyone in the county has as tap water, the incidence of cancer has skyrocketed over the past few years.

Wow, that sounds really terrible. Which county, what was the chemical? It sounds exactly like something that demonstrates why the people DO need an agency to watch for such abuse.

Jeez SVreX, all you asked for was a plating service.

Jerry From LA wrote: Jeez SVreX, all you asked for was a plating service.

Um, yeah. Y'all do know that while you're privately congratulating yourselves on your superior debating skills, the rest of us a peeking in and thinking, geez, lookat those dweebs having an Internet-off.

Graves Plating is indeed a good place, good folks, good job.

Margie

Another good one is Faith Plating in LA. Their main business is rechroming bumpers but here's a review from a guy who had some house hardware redone in both brass and chrome:

http://wehonews.com/z/wehonews/archive/page.php?articleID=4297

They're EPA approved and even recycle their waste heat to cover 50 percent of their electrical costs.

If you decide to go this way but their shipping is too high, send the stuff to me and I'll get it there, pick it up and ship it back to you for postage cost.

Jerry From LA wrote: Jeez SVreX, all you asked for was a plating service.

Yeah, my threads aren't going so good lately. I guess friends don't let friends get off too easily.

Next time I may try the yellow pages.

JP plating in portland In does a great job also.

Is it possible to have something "copper" plated?

z31maniac wrote: Is it possible to have something "copper" plated?

Sure, I used to have a handful of "copper" nickels I electroplated when I got bored at work one day.

A small container of normal saline, a battery charger and some sacrificial copper wire is all it takes.

So what makes one chrome plating job cocours quality and another GRM priceworthy? I'm curious about how the process works. Is it in the prep like painting? Should we sand our peices first to get a better finish? Anybody with recommendations for Seattle? Portland is close, but if I could save shipping.....

z31maniac wrote: Is it possible to have something "copper" plated?

What??? Didn't you watch the American Chopper episode for years back when they plated a bike with copper from the Statue of Liberty? Even though I don't like choppers, it was pretty impressive looking.

^No, I never saw that one. Sounds interesting though. I remember that big Jesse James special where he built a tank out of copper, and it was beautiful.

Hmmm, I may have to look into that. I've got an idea for a set of wheels. Is there anyway to "protect" the copper from is natural tendency to green?

4Msfam wrote: So what makes one chrome plating job cocours quality and another GRM priceworthy? I'm curious about how the process works. Is it in the prep like painting? Should we sand our peices first to get a better finish? Anybody with recommendations for Seattle? Portland is close, but if I could save shipping.....

My suggestion above is in Portland Indiana!

z31maniac wrote: Is it possible to have something "copper" plated?

Every chrome piece is copper plated first.

4Msfam wrote: So what makes one chrome plating job cocours quality and another GRM priceworthy? I'm curious about how the process works. Is it in the prep like painting? Should we sand our peices first to get a better finish? Anybody with recommendations for Seattle? Portland is close, but if I could save shipping.....

Bascially yes - prep is everything and where much of the skilled labor is involved. The actual plating is very thin, so the smoother the base surface, the smoother the plating will be. The prep procedure at Hanlon involved a number of checks and rechecks. If a defect was found, it would go back a couple of stations. If they have to weld anything closed, it ads more to the process.

Marjorie Suddard wrote:

Jerry From LA wrote: Jeez SVreX, all you asked for was a plating service.

Um, yeah. Y'all do know that while you're privately congratulating yourselves on your superior debating skills, the rest of us a peeking in and thinking, geez, lookat those dweebs having an Internet-off. Graves Plating is indeed a good place, good folks, good job. Margie

Looks like the Mother of the Mothership just reiterated the Prime Directive. Guess y'all really are DORKS. Argumentative DORKS at that

I wanted to take a minute to follow up on this thread, and offer a recommendation.

I contacted everyone mentioned in this thread (of course starting with Graves Plating ). Graves Plating and Paul's Chrome were the only 2 companies to get back to me.

Paul's couldn't do brass, and Grave's had a minimum 2 week lead time. The part I needed was a big rush (trying to make an unhappy customer happy).

At the last second, I heard of a company called Buckhead Plating, outside of ATL. Family owned business.

I talked with them on the phone, particularly explaining my rushed time schedule. They promised me a quick turn-around.

The parts left my hands on Monday afternoon (I Express Mailed them). I got them back on Thursday. 3 days, including the shipping time both directions.

The parts were gorgeous, and the price was extremely fair. In fact, it was LESS than they had estimated on the phone.

If you need anything plated, I HIGHLY recommend this company.

Thanks for all your help.

Someone mentioned the 'spray chrome' process. I had reason to do some research into this recently, it's a relatively new process and is still having some bugs worked out. It seems to be a silver (not chrome) spray which must be topcoated with clear IMMEDIATELY (like within a few minutes) so it won't tarnish. It's not as durable as chrome because it is basically a paint and can be scratched. If it scratches, it tarnishes and it happens QUICKLY.

As a result of that research, we are having several trim parts for a Mercedes 220SE done with a chrome powder coat which has a clear powder coat over it. No, it won't be as durable as real chrome but it can be applied over fillers etc which is what made the process so attractive. The sample piece we had done came back looking very impressive; we should receive the rest of it back soon.

Spectra Chrome friend is opening a shop here in crystal river

Hocrest wrote:

z31maniac wrote: Is it possible to have something "copper" plated?

Sure, I used to have a handful of "copper" nickels I electroplated when I got bored at work one day. A small container of normal saline, a battery charger and some sacrificial copper wire is all it takes.

Does that process come out with "shiny copper?"

You may have just given me some awesomely bad ideas.

Just don't ever waste yur money on that Spectra Chrome spray on chrome horse manure. It's garbage.