Please edumacate me on the Chevy V-6.

In reply to psteav:

Probably. I just decided to only change it if I had to. Lucky for me, the opportunity never presented itself.

Knurled wrote:

fasted58 wrote: So I have a fresh 4.3 carb cam and a 700R4 yet to build, what kinda fun damage could I do w/ it?

Nothing. 200/229 have a different firing order than 262. I forget if the 200/229 are oddfire and the 262 isn't, or the 200/229 are true even-fire and the 262 isn't (for strength reasons the overlap is less so there is a 108/132? firing order split). But the nutshell is, you have to use a cam that matches your crankshaft.

They do match. It's a rebuilt '91 Chevy 4.3L w/ 270HR Comp Cam and lifters.

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/201x-classifieds/rebuilt-chevy-43l/103687/page1/

And that, right there, is why commas and other punctuation are still important.

I was thinking it was a cam for a 4.3.

Then there's this .... I'd like to use the Buick 350 I have (know it is without issues) and hang a clutch pedal. Anyone got a buick 4spd hanging around?

In reply to Knurled: Makes sense. I forgot about the straight engine.

oldopelguy wrote: And that, right there, is why commas and other punctuation are still important.

I spent over 50 years using correct spelling and punctuation. Had my knuckles smacked with wooden rulers by Sister Cruella over cursive writing and penmanship. 58 now and really don't give a flyin' berkeley, never got me nowhere, I'll go outta my way to murder the language like any 20-something, tweeter, gangsta or hillbilly. It don't matter in the grand scheme of today's world. You should see my CL posts, I'm still ahead of the curve tho.

My idol:

Oy.

As has been said, that V6 is anemic as hell, but so were the V8s in that era. The 305s in those years were rated at 125hp. Some of the 350s were only 140 hp. About the hottest engine you could get in those years (aside from the GN turbo) was the Y-code 307 in the 442, and even those were only 170 hp. Don't worry about power from any of the stock engines. You won't find any. Power in a G-body means engine work or engine swap.

Having said that, they are the ultimate parts-bin dream. The same frame was used under a few billion G-bodies from all GM manufacturers (except caddy). That means, a Buick 455, an Olds 403, a Pontiac 421, many of the V6s... darn near any GM engine and transmission will literally bolt in. The G-bodies are all drilled for any possible combo.

All the GM 4 speeds Interchange the Differance is the Chevy or BOP bell housing Pattern not the tranny side.

In reply to GTXVette:

Except the OD 4 speeds in trucks, those have a bigger bearing retainer that needs to be turned down and some have a Mopar bolt pattern.

yes but the 4 speeds ALL Have the SAME BOLT PATTERN Saginaw's Muncie And T 10's Unless It is a FORD OR a Mopar in which It Is NOT a GM.a 4 od is not a 4 speed. I have a rare(not) Ford Top Loader 3 speed W/OD But I won't sell it to you as a 4 speed.

It WAS a 4 speed... it had four forward gears, therefore, 4 speed.

Now if memory serves, it was actually an A-833, which of course was a regular 4 speed with the 3/4 shift lever flipped upside down and an overdrive gear stuck in "3rd" gear's place. It worked, kinda, if you liked large gear drops.

That wasn't a 3 speed with separate overdrive unit, OD was just another gear.

This thread will now have me hunting down Corvette 4+3 setups, or MGBs and Volvos with the Laycock de Normanville overdrive unit.

well OK then, I have a Ford Top Loader 4 speed I will sell you For 750 bucks,but if you want a 3 speed with OD I will sell it to you for 300. your call.

I'm not saying your Ford trans isn't a 3 + OD, I'm saying the "Chevy" (Chrysler) 4 speed OD is a 4 speed.

Really, I want to 'Splane someting to you. If you Have a gear that is 1 to 1 THAT is where you stop Counting your Forward Gears, the 4th gear is an OD and is Counted as Such. A Corvette 4+3 is a 4 speed with 3 od gears It is not a 7 speed. and if we need to discuss this farther we should open another thread

I also know that the vette 4+3 has the 3 in another Housing making it a Unit as is the MGB I Had one in My MGB-GT.

Those Chevy truck A-833 ODs were true 4 speeds, not a 3 speed with an OD unit. As Knurled said the OD set was in the 3rd gear position and the 3/4 lever flipped so the pattern came out right, they had a custom Hurst shifter too. I'm pretty sure the OD Ford toploaders were built the same way, you can ID them by the bump on the passenger side of the case to make room for the flipped 3rd gear. All I was saying is some of the chevy A-833s can't be put behind a BOP motor because some of them took a super special Chevy-Mopar bell.

Speaking of toploaders, GM used the 3 speed model in some late 60s BOP products, not sure what the bellhousing and input shaft situation on that is though. I know a normal Ford unit can be hung off a regular GM bell with an adapter plate, the Ford box even has a conveniently longer input shaft so everything ends up in the right place.

I have a Ford Top loader version in My Shop right now, No one wants it Because It has an OD gear in the 3rd gear position it operates the same as you posted has the bump and all, But with the gear in the 4th position being 1 to 1 and the gear in the 3rd beind a od ratio it is a 3 speed w/ OD even though it has 4 Forward Gears.

I am Old and ya'll may be using NEW Math, which is Forign to me. Lol

Now I have a Ford Top loader with 4 Gears and the 4th gear is 1to1 and it's not for sale but the 3 speed w/OD is for sale for 300.bucks buy it and call it what you will.

My father had an '82 Chevy C10 with the 6.2L non-turbo diesel and that Mopar/New Venture Gear A-833 (built right nearby in Syracuse, NY). While he loved the 6.2L, that 4-speed was pretty weak. It came with a warning not to engine-brake with it and the synchros did not hold up. He had to physically hold the shifter in 3rd/4th/direct-drive/whatever you want to call it or the shifter would fall back into neutral.