bigwrench
bigwrench Reader
4/28/09 10:16 a.m.

So what happens to the DP and Gt Grand Am efforts and others already started their season???

Will
Will Reader
4/28/09 10:29 a.m.

Slap a Chevy or Caddy badge on 'em. They're corporate engines anyway so what does it matter?

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/28/09 11:24 a.m.

More like Chevy won't give them money. Pontiac had a huge racing budget (NHRA with Pro Stock and Warren Johnson and Jason Line and Greg Anderson; Grand Am/Rolex with the G6.R and formerly the GTO.R race cars not to mention the Pontiac Prototype racers; drifting with the GTO and now the Solstice; SCCA support program; etc, etc). I seriously doubt GM is going to keep all of those programs going, and it's a damn crying shame.

Rusty_Rabbit84
Rusty_Rabbit84 Reader
4/28/09 11:37 a.m.

didnt they say Opel wont be affected?

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
4/28/09 1:28 p.m.

I was wondering about that.

the Drifting program ended last year. Rhys Millen is drifting a Hyundai this year.

Rusty_Rabbit84
Rusty_Rabbit84 Reader
4/28/09 1:52 p.m.
Will wrote: Slap a Chevy or Caddy badge on 'em. They're corporate engines anyway so what does it matter?

or throw a BUICK badge on em!!!

Will
Will Reader
4/28/09 3:48 p.m.

I left out Buick because no Buick offering uses an LS-series V8. Chevy and Caddy products do.

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
4/28/09 4:27 p.m.

not true. Buick Lacrosse Super has a FWD 300 HP 5.3liter LS engine.

PaulY
PaulY Reader
4/29/09 12:49 a.m.

I hope they can continue, it was good to see them competing and doing well. Maybe Chevy can pull some money out of Nascar to keep these guys going.

The prototypes aren't hard to change but since there is only a pontiac g6 coupe i don't know how they can keep that going unless they just call it the GM G6 or something. I haven't been able to see much of the series but that car really impressed me how well it did considering it doesn't seem like much as a street car.

Dashpot
Dashpot New Reader
4/29/09 6:49 a.m.

The "G6" is a tube framed RWD race car (Pratt & Whitney?). Absolutely no relation to the production vehicle, like the "GTO" before it.

Will
Will Reader
4/29/09 7:11 a.m.
maroon92 wrote: not true. Buick Lacrosse Super has a FWD 300 HP 5.3liter LS engine.

I stand corrected.

Rusty_Rabbit84
Rusty_Rabbit84 Reader
4/29/09 8:28 a.m.
Will wrote: I left out Buick because no Buick offering uses an LS-series V8. Chevy and Caddy products do.

i would love to see buick in the winners circle.

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/29/09 8:44 a.m.

Dashpot,

I know the G6.R is a full-tube race car, but I thought the GTO.R started life as a real GTO, hence why they sold them instead of re-bodying them as G6's.

Rusty Rabbit,

Never heard of the Grand National? GS? Buick's years of NASCAR victories? Miss our other Buick thread? They have a long history of motorsport (granted it pales in comparison to Pontiac).

Rusty_Rabbit84
Rusty_Rabbit84 Reader
4/29/09 8:48 a.m.
P71 wrote: Rusty Rabbit, Never heard of the Grand National? GS? Buick's years of NASCAR victories? Miss our other Buick thread? They have a long history of motorsport (granted it pales in comparison to Pontiac).

oh yea. the old buick v6 indy light cars!! dont forget those

Dashpot
Dashpot New Reader
4/29/09 8:50 a.m.
P71 wrote: Dashpot, I know the G6.R is a full-tube race car, but I thought the GTO.R started life as a real GTO, hence why they sold them instead of re-bodying them as G6's.

Just another silhouette:

http://www.theracersgroup.com/racing/pro/gto.php

I have nothing but suspicion that the "G6" IS just a rebodied "GTO".

P71
P71 GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/29/09 8:54 a.m.

Dashpot,

I would have the suspicion as well, but they definitely sold all of the GTO.R's. I wouldn't be surprised if the tube chassis underneath both isn't very close or identical, but they for sure sold the GTO's off, so they're not "re-bodies" per say...

Rusty_Rabbit84
Rusty_Rabbit84 Reader
4/29/09 9:15 a.m.

from a different site:

With the bodywork inspired by the Pontiac G6 GXP Street edition coupe, the GXP.R is the next step in the evolution of a successful racing program that began with the purpose-built GTO.R. The GTO.R was retired after winning the 2006 GT championship; the new GXP.R is built on the same winning foundation as the GTO.R.

http://www.supercarnews.net/2008-pontiac-g6-gxp-r

but i really dont know

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
4/29/09 11:38 a.m.
Dashpot said: The "G6" is a tube framed RWD race car (Pratt & Whitney?). Absolutely no relation to the production vehicle, like the "GTO" before it.

definately not Prat and Whitney, they make airplane engines. Pratt and Miller Engineering make the Chassis for the GXP.R, as well as the C6.R's in the ALMS...

Yes, the GXP.R is basically the same chassis as the GTO.R before it. Why start from scratch when you have a winning chassis to begin with. obviously improvements were made, but it is mostly the same with a different body.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 Dork
4/29/09 6:07 p.m.

I am sure they will run the rest of the year out as Pontiacs in Grand-Am. Next year things might be different though. Sad Sad Sad, time to go get my Arrow head tat next to my Olds

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