When I used to teach driver's ed I was specific with my students that the left lane is the PASSING lane and not the FAST lane. If you are not passing, you are camping, and there shall be no camping in the passing lane.
EDIT: some states now actually have laws that regulate this (meaning you could get a ticket for not passing while in the passing lane), but I have no idea how they expect law enforcement to actually enforce that.
I think all the big hauling trucks should only be allowed to camp in the right lane. I hate seeing them in the fast lane as they are hard to see around and shouldn't be going fast anyways
Robbie wrote: EDIT: some states now actually have laws that regulate this (meaning you could get a ticket for not passing while in the passing lane), but I have no idea how they expect law enforcement to actually enforce that.
It's law in PA and I've seen State Troopers enforce it. Usually by just turning their lights on to get a lane-camper to move over. That said, it's more of an issue in light traffic situations. Under most situations around Philly, the left lane really is the "fast lane" and you had better be doing 75 (or higher) or you risk getting run over. Hell... just doing 55 (the posted limit) in the right lane is sketchy.
Recent trip to DC and back on the super slab. Drag racing semi running side by side for miles. And, in Wisconsin, 2 young girls intentionally blocking left lane traffic and speeding up/slowing down to prevent cars from passing in right lane.
Years ago, I got a thumbs up from MN state patrol with my old Slower Traffic Keep Right Banner (from 55 mph era) in my 323.
It's only going to work if you can somehow get it to appear on their phone screen. And even then it probably won't work.
Robbie wrote: EDIT: some states now actually have laws that regulate this (meaning you could get a ticket for not passing while in the passing lane), but I have no idea how they expect law enforcement to actually enforce that.
They finally passed one in Indiana last year, the fine is actually more than felonic speeding....just without the low rent felony charge.
So, what do you do when you are in the left lane, going over the speed limit, and passing a train of vehicles when a car comes up behind you.
Mind you- there are 6-10 cars directly in front of you.
And you are going slower than you want.
Moreso, when the closing car is one you passed when the road was clear.
(as I see it, there's one reality when the road is 10-20% occupied, and a different one when it's +80%)
alfadriver wrote: So, what do you do when you are in the left lane, going over the speed limit, and passing a train of vehicles when a car comes up behind you. Mind you- there are 6-10 cars directly in front of you. And you are going slower than you want. Moreso, when the closing car is one you passed when the road was clear. (as I see it, there's one reality when the road is 10-20% occupied, and a different one when it's +80%)
This, to me, is a little common sense. If the car in front of you is behind another car (or cars) they are not the one holding you up and riding their butt will get you no where fast.... well it will get you an express pass to doucheville population you. But unless your drive a BMW, that's probably not a place you want to be.
In reply to alfadriver:
What I do is pass them in the grass median while flipping them off and laying on the horn. Although that may not be the correct approach.
I think left lane blocking is the official state sport of CT.
In a bizarre twist of fate, my wife had to endure 12 hours crammed into the ridiculously small third row 'seat' of a Pilot while my SIL/BIL mindlessly droned along in the left lane on the way to Hilton Head. They both know more about driving than her, and refuse to listen to suggestions to get the berk out of the left lane. If you were among the 867893298734 cars who passed them, I apologize .
In reply to alfadriver:
This is when I start texting my bros selfies of me with the pissed off driver behind included.
Actually, I will move over if I can. Regardless of what's in front of me, if the guy behind me is typical of what I see daily, he would be riding my ass even if I was going 150, and I would rather not have him behind me.
A big problem wth folks on the Interstate is they are only looking 5 feet in front of their cars. Occasionally I'll be in a situation like Alfadriver described, and as long as the left lane is passing the cars on the right-- -I'll stay in that lane until the right lane is clear and then move over. Short-sighted idiots always try to fly by on the right, and then cut the line off---as they are incapable of seeing more than 10 feet in front of their bumpers.
So they fly by on the right, and then have to slam on their brakes as they encounter the slow car in the right lane. The really aggressive ones then try to cut back in line......unless they get blocked in.......... such a shame when that happens.
Rule # 1---- look ahead---- far ahead. Rule #2---- be courteous-- don't be a jerk. We are all trying to get somewhere. Your progress is no more important than mine.
Nick (picaso) Comstock wrote: In reply to alfadriver: What I do is pass them in the grass median while flipping them off and laying on the horn. Although that may not be the correct approach.
Nice to know I'm not alone with this
One funny note about my real situation- I have come to realize why so many people suck at sports.
They have no concept of relative motion at all.
They decide to pass on the right when the vehicle you are passing is going quite slow, and there's no way you could even pull along side. But they pull behind that car just because there's an opening, and a distance to the vehicle.
Funny as hell.
These are the cars constantly moving backwards relative to your position, as they constantly try to pass fast cars via the slow cars and a gap. Some are even "nice" people who don't cut people off. The jerks are the ones who cut people off, but when they are actually passing are doing barely over the speed limit- and you passed them a mile back when it was clear.
The other consideration that makes me wonder- think about the people who bitch about work, and the same people who bitch about family life.... what are they in a hurry to get to? Being as miserable as possible???
Nick (picaso) Comstock wrote: In reply to alfadriver: What I do is pass them in the grass median while flipping them off and laying on the horn. Although that may not be the correct approach.
Just be careful of that Semi who has decided to pull over. going to hurt a little.
But I bring up the question- to you and revrico- considering how miserable you are with life- what's the hurry?- I thought we liked driving.
In reply to slowride:
I can't stand the ones that ride your butt, but when you move over they slow down. Then when you move back over they are back up your butt again.... they literally won't go around you.
In reply to alfadriver:
As much as I think speed limits are too slow, I also feel them to be a minimum speed suggestion. I get stuck A LOT behind one person in each lane seeing how far under they can go, usually when I have barely enough time to get to the parts store, or get back before it gets dark. Turns out, a miata can split lanes between 2 distracted drivers and they don't even notice.
It started for me though in California, taking 37 (if I remember that right might still be 80) towards Sonoma raceway, where it cuts to one lane each direction to cross a river or stream bed. Being stuck behind someone to busy on their phone to notice the enormous line of cars behind them just sets me off. There were some dangerous times, I'll grant that, but mostly safe. At least I justify it to myself that I'm being safe because I'm not on my phone, shaving, doing makeup, and drinking coffee when I go to over take and then carry on at the speed limit.
I'm much better about it since having the baby though(and no, I don't do this E36 M3 when she's with me, then I'm in the jeep, in the right lane, using the passing lane only at onramps to let people on), if laying on the horn and flashing lights doesn't get them to move, well, cutting past on the shoulder is better than a love tap. Although I've found with the top down, if I yell loud enough, they can hear me and will actually speed up or get out of the way.
I think if we could just love tap bad drivers, they might learn, or desire to learn, proper lane discipline. Not full on pit maneuver, just a little bump on the bumper.
Because of my hatred for the local drivers though, I really only go out once or twice a week anymore, still have the same tank of gas from my last autocross in June actually.
Bobzilla wrote: In reply to slowride: I can't stand the ones that ride your butt, but when you move over they slow down. Then when you move back over they are back up your butt again.... they literally won't go around you.
That's like the nozzles, out in the open, that you catch up to, while on cruise control - your speed doesn't change. You move over, and gradually start to overtake them, but once you get alongside, they start matching your speed. WTF?
RealMiniParker wrote:Bobzilla wrote: In reply to slowride: I can't stand the ones that ride your butt, but when you move over they slow down. Then when you move back over they are back up your butt again.... they literally won't go around you.That's like the nozzles, out in the open, that you catch up to, while on cruise control - your speed doesn't change. You move over, and gradually start to overtake them, but once you get alongside, they start matching your speed. WTF?
This is a constant problem. A few times I've solved it by coming up on them for the second or third pass and blasting past them at WOT then dropping back to the cruise setting. They seem to get the picture after that.
In reply to RealMiniParker:
Exactly. And try that in a truck with 2k lbs in the bed and hauling a 10k 20ft trailer with a 2100 lb car on it in the Appalachians like I did this weekend. I wanted to just run those people off the road.
In reply to rslifkin:
I've resorted to that method, too. It's especially impressionable, with a loud berking Harley.
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