stroker
stroker PowerDork
10/6/23 8:45 a.m.

how much does this work out to per Hive member?

NMNA

J.A. Ackley
J.A. Ackley Senior Editor
10/6/23 8:59 a.m.

It's not too far from Omaha and Lincoln - that's promising. It is a lot of land, too.

bmw88rider
bmw88rider GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/6/23 9:16 a.m.

Yeah. Small problem with it: 

This was it in 2019. It's built on land that has flooded multiple times since I've had family in Omaha. 

https://www.thedrive.com/news/27079/popular-iowa-race-track-and-drag-strip-under-14-feet-of-water-amid-record-midwest-flooding

The track has never really recovered from that and needs a good amount of investment still to get back to where it should be. Currently, the track is no longer certified for W2W racing. I would love it to get investment but I really don't see it happening especially when it's priced at half the land value for the area. There is more to be made farming the land vs running a track. It's a shame too because they had a really good thing going but the flood and then covid were a back to back killer for the owner. 

myusdmcavalier
myusdmcavalier New Reader
10/6/23 9:39 a.m.

Even with it being flooded, $2.3m doesnt sound too bad.

bmw88rider
bmw88rider GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/6/23 9:46 a.m.

In reply to myusdmcavalier :

Yeah. Land costs aren't bad. You would just have to convince someone to put in another at least million to get it to be really up to snuff. Then you run the risk of flooding on that investment. That is the worse time the track flooded. There was a flood in 2011 as well and that forced the original builder to sell. 

I'd love to see someone do it but it'd have to be a pure passion project as any sensible business man would run away from it. It would be great to see someone like the woodhouse family invest in it but they have stepped away from racing for the most part. 

I'm planning on running it next weekend at the last HPDE of the year. I suspect that may be the last time the track is open. 

Kreb (Forum Supporter)
Kreb (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/6/23 9:50 a.m.

So it floods. You just build a banked oval track around the outside that also acts as a dam. You've fixed your flood problem and attracted a bunch more fans.

mainly joking.

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
10/6/23 10:01 a.m.

Right by I-29 and close to I-80 so there's good access, and a couple towns just a few miles away for lodging and food.  Has a drag strip too.  Unfortunately the Missouri River is also just a few miles away.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
10/6/23 10:08 a.m.
myusdmcavalier said:

Even with it being flooded, $2.3m doesnt sound too bad.

It was in bad shape even before the flood. We went in 2016 for a WRL track day thing. 

The 24' enclosed trailer with the Miata sank in the pavement in the paddock by 4-6". Too bad, it's a fun little track. If you've never been there you might recognize it from this video. 

NEMESIS!!!!

iansane
iansane Dork
10/6/23 10:16 a.m.

14' flood waters you say? So about a 15' retaining wall around the whole place will complete the castle/compound look AND keep me racing during floods? How much do we all have to put in?

J.A. Ackley
J.A. Ackley Senior Editor
10/6/23 10:20 a.m.
Kreb (Forum Supporter) said:

So it floods. You just build a banked oval track around the outside that also acts as a dam. You've fixed your flood problem and attracted a bunch more fans.

mainly joking.

Repurpose new oval for boat racing when flooded?

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
10/6/23 10:26 a.m.
J.A. Ackley said:
Kreb (Forum Supporter) said:

So it floods. You just build a banked oval track around the outside that also acts as a dam. You've fixed your flood problem and attracted a bunch more fans.

mainly joking.

Repurpose new oval for boat racing when flooded?

Im confident I can speak for the hive when I say everyone loves a good mock naval battle...

Noddaz
Noddaz GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/6/23 11:14 a.m.

When it floods have boat races.

I'll be back with more great ideas.

paddygarcia
paddygarcia GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
10/6/23 11:59 a.m.

And aren't the airplane races looking for a new home? Who wouldn't dig staying on an infield houseboat for airplane races?

matthewmcl
matthewmcl Dork
10/6/23 12:08 p.m.

That's not flooding, it's just the course changeover for the mud race.

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
10/6/23 1:18 p.m.
z31maniac said:
myusdmcavalier said:

Even with it being flooded, $2.3m doesnt sound too bad.

It was in bad shape even before the flood. We went in 2016 for a WRL track day thing. 

The 24' enclosed trailer with the Miata sank in the pavement in the paddock by 4-6". Too bad, it's a fun little track. If you've never been there you might recognize it from this video. 

NEMESIS!!!!

Wait this is the "Nemesis " track?

That alone has to get it categorized as a national historical landmark or something. Maybe we can get UNESCO involved somehow.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
10/6/23 1:36 p.m.
JG Pasterjak said:
z31maniac said:
myusdmcavalier said:

Even with it being flooded, $2.3m doesnt sound too bad.

It was in bad shape even before the flood. We went in 2016 for a WRL track day thing. 

The 24' enclosed trailer with the Miata sank in the pavement in the paddock by 4-6". Too bad, it's a fun little track. If you've never been there you might recognize it from this video. 

NEMESIS!!!!

Wait this is the "Nemesis " track?

That alone has to get it categorized as a national historical landmark or something. Maybe we can get UNESCO involved somehow.

Yes sir! And the front straight is LONG 2222'

stroker
stroker PowerDork
10/6/23 1:44 p.m.

There's a remarkable lack of ARMCO/barriers in that photo.  Is that accurate or was the photo taken before it was installed?

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
10/6/23 1:47 p.m.
stroker said:

There's a remarkable lack of ARMCO/barriers in that photo.  Is that accurate or was the photo taken before it was installed?

There is ARMCO around the pit area, if you look carefully you can see the tire walls in the places your most likely to go off, other places you just have hundreds of feet of grass to slide through. 

Karacticus
Karacticus GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/6/23 1:49 p.m.

In reply to stroker :

Accurate. There's only a couple of places there's anything to hit going off, and even then you'd have to go a ways. 
 

Some years the sight lines along the track would change significantly as crops were grown in the infield. 

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed UltraDork
10/6/23 2:18 p.m.

Never been there, don't know anything about it but I hate to see all these types of smaller tracks going away.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver UltimaDork
10/6/23 3:46 p.m.

The question of how bad the pavement was wrecked in the flooding is going to be the biggest hurdle. Really easy to get heaves and alligatoring after that. Repaving is the huge $$$$ for a place like that.

Noddaz
Noddaz GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/6/23 7:12 p.m.

Do a Go Fund Me to all the racing people.

bmw88rider
bmw88rider GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/6/23 8:46 p.m.

In reply to Apexcarver :

It wasn't bad in the spring when I ran. Honestly harris hill was worse than this. It just had most of the infrastructure destroyed that isn't the dragstrip. The dragstrip is in good shape. 

My poor mirage gets eaten alive on the long front stretch. 

DWNSHFT
DWNSHFT Dork
10/7/23 1:50 p.m.

I ran my first wheel-to-wheel race there with PCA back in, oh, about 2001.  The Turn 2-3 complex is a good place to make up time on other racers.  Turn 5 is a medium speed increasing-radius turn that was fun.  Turn in too fast and let the car run wide and it feels like you're going to run out of track but the turn opens up in front of you.  Similar to to the Turn 8-9 complex at Arizona Motorsports Complex.

It was a fun track to run.  It's about an hour from both Lincoln and Omaha, near both I-80 and I-29.  There's not many tourist services in the immediate area.  I really hope the track survives as there's not a ton of track options in that part of the country.

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