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racerdave600
racerdave600 Reader
3/2/10 7:47 a.m.

I'm down to only 3 cars...I need to sit down I'm feeling weak....

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
3/2/10 8:26 a.m.

I am at my max right now. I currently have 7 cars, and only 2 of them are running. Hopefully it will soon be 6 cars with 3 running. I am good with a 50% ratio.

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
3/2/10 8:30 a.m.
Raze wrote:
Keith wrote: You can find the media kits for most magazines online. It's fascinating reading and great for confirming/disproving your stereotypes. Check out the difference between Classic and GRM owners, for example. Then check out a pilot magazine and an import tuner mag The GRM forum is not indicative of the GRM readership as a whole.
Thanks for reminding me, I need to subscribe to Classic Motorsports as well, I'm sending in my 3 year check to GRM tomorrow, If i'd realized earlier I would have only done a 2 year (so i could keep getting tshirts sooner ) and pay a little extra for a magazine that's well worth it...

You get T-Shirts?

Jeff
Jeff Dork
3/2/10 8:31 a.m.

I assume incomes are self reported. Most self reported data tends to be a little off . It would be interesting to compare the income reported to GRM and the income reported to the IRS for the same cohort.

914Driver
914Driver SuperDork
3/2/10 8:32 a.m.

If you can pin point the demographic of a subscriber, I'm curious if the Message Boarder is the same.

Lotsa folks may get the magazine because they want diversity in their outer office, or they got it from a wife or girlfriend; but how different from the average subscriber are we really?

Dan

914Driver
914Driver SuperDork
3/2/10 8:36 a.m.

Make a Sticky!

Or a PM or an email [like you guys don't have enough computer trouble].

A Survey of the Message Boarders, similar to your Subscription Survey; you get to fill it our one time. Are we really more hard core as Adrian suggests? Are we sitting at a 15 year old Mac in our underwear like Wally?

Make a spread sheet.

Enquiring minds want to know.

jikelly
jikelly Reader
3/2/10 9:17 a.m.

I like cars and own an old mustang. I am also a closet speed freak and I love to troubleshoot things. I haven't been able to find a good solution to speeding tickets though.

Sadly most of my racing will probably be on my xbox this year. :(

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
3/2/10 9:24 a.m.

I would like to know the demo of the website visitors as well. I would be willing to bet that it is not too far removed from the magazine demo. I know I do all of my own work on my cars, I probably bring down the age range and the dollars earned a little, and I bring up the average amount of cars.

would be interesting to find out.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla Dork
3/2/10 9:46 a.m.
Raze wrote: Reposted from the media kit: • Every member of NASA (National Auto Sport Association) gets Grassroots Motorsports. • A recent SCCA Membership Survey ranked GRM the No. 1 most read magazine by SCCA members! • Over 80% of Grassroots Motorsports readers actively compete in sanctioned motorsports. • Young, but not too young: Our readers are in their 30s (median age 34.9), established and spending money on their passion. In fact 87% have an annual income over $75,000, and 31% have an annual income over $125,000! • A full 89% of Grassroots Motorsports readers claim to have bought products advertised in the magazine in the past year! • Over 80% of our readers own 3 or more cars. • Over 80% are considering purchasing a new car in the next year. • Over 95% do their own maintenance and repairs.

Not a memeber of nasa, Check, check, check, check, double check, not for 2 more years and check.... I guess I am the median reader....and I'm 34.3

924guy
924guy Dork
3/2/10 10:08 a.m.

lets see, two years ago the balloon hadnt burst yet, or at least many hadnt felt the full effects, and the unemployment rate was more than half what it is now. itll be real interesting to see the next set of stats and how things affected the target demographics.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson HalfDork
3/2/10 11:25 a.m.

Wow, thanks.

I posted the Q yesterday and this is the first time I've been back since then! Those stat's were exactly what I was asking for and I'm pretty certain that it backs up my assumption of the average reader Vs forum user.

I'd love to know what the demographics are for the forums users and I'd love to see how the distribution of cars Vs age vs income etc plays out.

As for me, as my age and income go up, my number of cars, $'s spent on mods and # of events seems to be tracking an inverse coloration.

Dashpot
Dashpot New Reader
3/2/10 12:24 p.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote: I'd love to know what the demographics are for the forums users and I'd love to see how the distribution of cars Vs age vs income etc plays out. As for me, as my age and income go up, my number of cars, $'s spent on mods and # of events seems to be tracking an inverse coloration.

Interesting, my experience has been the opposite.

I was in SUV's and pickups from the time I got out of college 'til I was 40. Didn't consider automotive a hobby since high school (had dirt bikes and ski boats in the meantime). My automotive interest was rediscovered when I got a new "performance car" as a dd/commuter, and realized the acceleration and grip were so high that had to take it to the track. I wasn't disappointed.

First track day - SOLD on a new hobby and pretty much monopolized my disposable income from then on. Dedicated track car, TT license, etc. have followed and I consider it a privilege to be part of the community.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson HalfDork
3/2/10 12:54 p.m.
Dashpot wrote: Interesting, my experience has been the opposite. I was in SUV's and pickups from the time I got out of college 'til I was 40. Didn't consider automotive a hobby since high school (had dirt bikes and ski boats in the meantime). My automotive interest was rediscovered when I got a new "performance car" as a dd/commuter, and realized the acceleration and grip were so high that had to take it to the track. I wasn't disappointed. First track day - SOLD on a new hobby and pretty much monopolized my disposable income from then on. Dedicated track car, TT license, etc. have followed and I consider it a privilege to be part of the community.

Well I played with cars since I was 17 (can't drive until 17 in the UK) Initially it was Hillman Imps and derivatives, inc a Davrian race/kit car. Then a TR7 with a Dolomite Spring 16V engine, then a Manta GTE which I sprinted and Hillclimbed. I think I peaked at 7 or 8 cars at one time.

Then at 24 I moved to the US. Started with a FC Rx7, then a Mustang which was where the slippery slope started. Then came autocross and track days, a Miata, a road race Fiesta, tow vehicle etc.

Then came marriage and kids and things contracted. Every time I sold a toy to buy another the money got sucked up by family responsibilities, now I just have a DD. Now it's a really nice DD and we drove it on the Ring prior to shipping it back here. I'm not complaining, I choose to send my kids to private school, go on multiple vacations, live in a nice house etc. Once I have more time and disposable $$'s I'll have another toy. Probably a Miata, but right now I just don't have time to play with a toy, 3-5 autocrosses a year suck up what little time I have. I'm also less tolerant of harsh, loud cars so Street tire stock class suits me.

rogerbvonceg
rogerbvonceg New Reader
3/2/10 1:33 p.m.
Wally wrote: Most of us are overweight men who live through our computers to escape the dark room we hide from reality in. And we don't usually wear pants. I think. I like to assume everyone is like me.

Yeah, pretty much spot on.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/2/10 2:09 p.m.

Wow what happened to the late teen / early 20s low/no income guys that dominate the message board?

93celicaGT2
93celicaGT2 SuperDork
3/2/10 2:12 p.m.

We're too busy wishing we had cars.

mkiisupra
mkiisupra New Reader
3/2/10 2:16 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: Wow what happened to the late teen / early 20s low/no income guys that dominate the message board?

5+ years later, they have jobs/children which re-focuses attention and $$. Hopefully, most have the former (job)before the latter(child).

Eric G

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/2/10 2:49 p.m.
Jensenman wrote: But how many of us wear no pants at our computers? Besides Wally and I, that is? Come to think of it, he and I share a birthday too.

no pants here, i'm actually in the bathtub because i am recovering from some long tough work days while sporting a nasty case of bronchitis.

i make considerably less than the bulk of readers apparently, and have considerably more cars. and 100% less pants. i do wear pants in public though. nobody needs to see my bare ass. not pretty.

rogerbvonceg
rogerbvonceg New Reader
3/2/10 2:52 p.m.
patgizz wrote:
Jensenman wrote: But how many of us wear no pants at our computers? Besides Wally and I, that is? Come to think of it, he and I share a birthday too.
no pants here, i'm actually in the bathtub because i am recovering from some long tough work days while sporting a nasty case of bronchitis. i make considerably less than the bulk of readers apparently, and have considerably more cars. and 100% less pants. i do wear pants in public though. nobody needs to see my bare ass. not pretty.

There's always bobsledding.

Paul_VR6
Paul_VR6 Reader
3/2/10 2:55 p.m.
Raze wrote: • Over 80% are considering purchasing a new car in the next year...

.. but never do.

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/2/10 3:55 p.m.
Paul_VR6 wrote:
Raze wrote: • Over 80% are considering purchasing a new car in the next year...
.. but never do.

or always do, there is no in between.

there is something new here every few months. i need a garage with a revolving door.

Keith
Keith GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/2/10 4:11 p.m.

Of course, anyone who is higher than the average isn't going to chime in here. It wouldn't be cool.

Car count: hmm. Do the MG and Camaro count as one car or two? Or 1.5?

mtn
mtn SuperDork
3/2/10 4:16 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: Wow what happened to the late teen / early 20s low/no income guys that dominate the message board?

Hi there, how ya doin? I'm Mike.

cwh
cwh SuperDork
3/2/10 4:28 p.m.

Anybody from the city of Normal does not belong here.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/2/10 4:37 p.m.

In reply to Dr. Hess: • Over 80% of our readers own 3 or more cars.

Did not say f they are running or not

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