R&T is so sad now --
Back in the John Bond days it was like Holy Writ to me, and Henry Manney was my God of letters, the best American motor journalist ever IMHO.
Peter Egan is still good, maybe a last vestige of the glory that was, but not enough to make it worth buying.
Along with Grassroots and Classic Motorsports I also read:
And the NY Time "Wheels" is usually good too.
A great tech read (and even some car related stuff) is Make magazine.
I also read Machine Design and the SAE magazine (my job pays for these).
I do miss the John Bond-era Road & Track. With Manney, Rob Walker, Stan Mott and others. And I actually remember reading C&D it when it was Sports Car Illustrated. This was back when C&D had Gordon Jennings, Warren Weith and Dicky Smothers writing. And later Csere, Yates, Bedard, Sherman, Steve Smith, P.J. O'Rourke and others. C&D was a great magazine. Now it just suitable for the bottom of bird cages in my opinion. This is almost true for R&T too.
Peter Egan's stuff is all online ~Here~
By he way, someone really needs to build a copy of Mott's Cyclops for The Challenge. Hayabusa-powered, of course.
I let C&D lapse. Still get R&T until it lapses.
Then I get....
GRM
Classic Motorsport
Hemmings Sport and Exotic Car
Classic and Sports Car
Motor Trend
Automobile
Vintage Motorsport
Vintage Racecar
Thoroughbred and Classic Cars
Motorsport
Hemmings Classic Car
Retro
Hot Rod (every issue since June '68 !)
European Car
Modified
Practical Classics
Evo
I think I have a problem...........
DrBoost wrote: I'm with Alfadriver. MY R&T sub ran out and it took like 4 months to notice it. And that's only because i was on the throne and really needed some reading material.
At least it wasn't because you ran out of TP. The inks they use can really irritate your softer tissues.
The only car mag I get through a subscription is GRM. I used to get C&D, Autoweek, and Automobile at various points, but none of them ever really clicked. Then I saw a magazine that featured a Datsun 210 with an Olds 215 V8 mounted in the passenger's seat, and said "This is definitely for me."
I do occasionally pick up Racecar Engineering if I'm walking through a store that has it, though. Really fascinating stuff in there, even though I don't understand the geekspeak in it.
DeadSkunk wrote: I let C&D lapse. Still get R&T until it lapses. Then I get.... GRM Classic Motorsport Hemmings Sport and Exotic Car Classic and Sports Car Motor Trend Automobile Vintage Motorsport Vintage Racecar Thoroughbred and Classic Cars Motorsport Hemmings Classic Car Retro Hot Rod (every issue since June '68 !) European Car Modified Practical Classics Evo I think I have a problem...........
I barely have time to read GRM and CM, dayum
My subscrips are always in flux it seems, My GRM and CM do not lapse, icronically nor does R&T but only because I have been getting it since before I was able to read the articles and only liked the pictures (think 1974- 1975ish) I still like to read Egan. Motortrend thanks to the free subscription from their traveling car show. EuroTuner (insert Stance joke here) Hot Rod (just gave me a deal for like $10) Apparently European Car is comping me since my subscription ran out 2-3 months ago but they keep sending it, perhaps becuase I started as a subscriber back when they were VW&Porsche. VW Trends because it is the only afforable air cooled VW mag I can get. I think I just got Hemmings Sports and Exotic subscription for $10-$20 too. I still make my monthly or bi-monthly trek to Barnes and Noble to read up on the ones I don't want to buy.
aussiesmg wrote:DeadSkunk wrote: I let C&D lapse. Still get R&T until it lapses. Then I get.... GRM Classic Motorsport Hemmings Sport and Exotic Car Classic and Sports Car Motor Trend Automobile Vintage Motorsport Vintage Racecar Thoroughbred and Classic Cars Motorsport Hemmings Classic Car Retro Hot Rod (every issue since June '68 !) European Car Modified Practical Classics Evo I think I have a problem...........I barely have time to read GRM and CM, dayum
You mean GRM has a print magazine???
DrBoost wrote: You mean GRM has a print magazine???
+1 this
DrBoost wrote: You mean GRM has a print magazine???
Sure. We really just buy it to keep the forums up and running. The articles all suck.
I used to have a sub to SCC before it turned to suck and went tits up. Even put the license plate frame on a 3/4 ton pickup for E36 M3s n giggles.
I'd like to get GRM, CM, and probably Car Craft, diesel power, and some Mopar mags, but every time I've thought about it something pops up and eats my money.
keethrax wrote: Sure. We really just buy it to keep the forums up and running.
You may have meant that in jest, but it is an accurate summary of my behavior. I bought a subscription just before I made dork.....thought I owed something to Tim for spending so much time on his servers....
keethrax wrote: The articles all suck.
No, it is a good magazine with informative articles, but I honestly read less than half of it most months. A lot of the big features (last issue's $15K roadsters, this issue's Porsche 911 article) do nothing for me.....I simply can't afford toys like that.
The roadster issue had a letter to the editor that said the magazine spends too much time on stuff people build out of trash....those are the sorts of things I want to read.
JoeyM wrote:keethrax wrote: Sure. We really just buy it to keep the forums up and running.You may have meant that in jest, but it is an accurate summary of my behavior. I bought a subscription just before I made dork.....thought I owed something to Tim for spending so much time on his servers....keethrax wrote: The articles all suck.No, it is a good magazine with informative articles, but I honestly read less than half of it most months. A lot of the big features (last issue's $15K roadsters, this issue's Porsche 911 article) do nothing for me.....I simply can't afford toys like that. The roadster issue had a letter to the editor that said the magazine spends too much time on stuff people build out of trash....those are the sorts of things I want to read.
I think the mag does a good job of varying it up. Not all of us have the skill to transform trash into treasure. Not all of us can afford to spend $15k on a ride. We all make compromises and time/money judgements. The forums and the mag do a good job of balancing and being inclusive to all I think. Hell, $15 roadster articles still beat the Ferraris and Porsches on the covers of the standard mags. At least those $15k vehicles may be in your price range in a few years even you can't afford it now. I don't foresee a 458 Italia in my future unless I marry REALLY well.
sanman wrote:JoeyM wrote:The forums and the mag do a good job of balancing and being inclusive to all I think. Hell, $15 roadster articles still beat the Ferraris and Porsches on the covers of the standard mags.keethrax wrote: Sure. We really just buy it to keep the forums up and running.You may have meant that in jest, but it is an accurate summary of my behavior. I bought a subscription just before I made dork.....thought I owed something to Tim for spending so much time on his servers....keethrax wrote: The articles all suck.No, it is a good magazine with informative articles, but I honestly read less than half of it most months. A lot of the big features (last issue's $15K roadsters, this issue's Porsche 911 article) do nothing for me.....I simply can't afford toys like that. The roadster issue had a letter to the editor that said the magazine spends too much time on stuff people build out of trash....those are the sorts of things I want to read.
agreed. BTW, this is the only way I'll get something interesting to drive.
aussiesmg wrote:DeadSkunk wrote: I let C&D lapse. Still get R&T until it lapses. Then I get.... GRM Classic Motorsport Hemmings Sport and Exotic Car Classic and Sports Car Motor Trend Automobile Vintage Motorsport Vintage Racecar Thoroughbred and Classic Cars Motorsport Hemmings Classic Car Retro Hot Rod (every issue since June '68 !) European Car Modified Practical Classics Evo I think I have a problem...........I barely have time to read GRM and CM, dayum
I'm retired.... I have the time !! 
I used to love Autoweek but then they got all snotty on us with their stupid articles on ferrari pens and cuff links, not to mention every column or article is some silly political correct pile of crap.
All other car magazines suck, mainly because they have been taken over by artsy fartsy photographers who think every photograph has to be blurry, you know, to show cars are in motion (you get it, right????) or they take some up close and personal photo of some meaningless detail on a car instead of showing us how it looks from the side, the front and yes the rear. This passes for art nowadays.
Gee, I'm really glad this post came along, I tend to vent like this every few months.
aeronca65t wrote: Peter Egan's stuff is all online ~Here~
Thanks for the link! Just killed an hour there, and I suspect a few more later. Love Mr. Egan's writing.
As for magazines, GRM, CM, and the occasional (expensive) British classic car mag for me.
Right now I have
GRM
Wheels of time
Scale Auto
Model Cars
Hot Rod
Car Craft
Automobile
Family Handyman'
This Old House
and from the newsstand I pick up
CM
Racecar Engineering
Trucking (a UK magazine with some great pics of classic trucks)
Hot Rod Deluxe
I have a lot of commuting time to kill
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