EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/31/11 5:21 p.m.

There are factory wheel locks on my Miata that I need to remove. Unfortunately I don't have the key. I already tried one removal socket with no success, the smooth tapered kind that you hammer over the lock and remove it.

The car is not mobile so I can't take it to a tire shop to get them removed. Are there any other options besides trying to order a new key?

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade HalfDork
5/31/11 5:32 p.m.

I think for most of them a flat edge screwdriver used to work. Not sure if technology caught up.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/31/11 5:33 p.m.

Gator Grip Socket?

wbjones
wbjones SuperDork
5/31/11 5:45 p.m.

shotgun ... if that's not any good, then throw away socket of some kind and a welder ?

Don49
Don49 Reader
5/31/11 6:24 p.m.

You could handle it just like a broken stud. Weld an appropriate size nut onto the lock and wrench it off.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/31/11 6:27 p.m.

Unfortunately I don't have a welder either.

wbjones
wbjones SuperDork
5/31/11 7:30 p.m.

I'm willing to bet that someone in Columbus has a portable one

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
5/31/11 7:49 p.m.

I got one with one of those gatorsockets.. ruined it.. but got it off

jrw1621
jrw1621 SuperDork
5/31/11 8:05 p.m.
wbjones wrote: shotgun

Shotgun really is the answer for this one and here is the original story that inspired the answer.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7091904.stm
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There's a crazy man across town, near the airport, who might like a challenge. Expect fire to be involved.

pigeon
pigeon Dork
5/31/11 8:26 p.m.

Craftsman socket in a size that you can pound on. Remove lock, pound out lock from socket. Swap for new socket at Sears. Rinse and repeat.

redrabbit
redrabbit New Reader
5/31/11 9:02 p.m.

Cheap socket. Big hammer (BFH). or Die Grinder w/carbide burr.

Josh
Josh Dork
5/31/11 9:08 p.m.

Irwin extractors. Just get a whole set, they work.

AutoXR
AutoXR Reader
5/31/11 9:09 p.m.

had the same problem yesterday before a track day - used a 17 mm 12 pt socket - hammered it over and cranked em off. Put the socket in the vice, hammered out the locking lug and party'd on

joey48442
joey48442 SuperDork
5/31/11 10:03 p.m.

Email the local Miata club? Someones for sure got one.

Joey

mattmacklind
mattmacklind SuperDork
5/31/11 11:00 p.m.
Josh wrote: Irwin extractors. Just get a whole set, they work.

Holy Cow I've never seen those before. Freakin' awesome.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/1/11 12:59 a.m.

Me either.. adding to my tool wish list

Tyler H
Tyler H GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/1/11 5:44 a.m.

I've had great success with hammering a cheap 12pt socket over them also. I like SAE sockets for this task.

Slyp_Dawg
Slyp_Dawg GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
6/1/11 6:57 a.m.

when I had to go through the same ordeal with my Miata, I just did as Tyler H did and hammered an el-cheapo 12pt onto the wheel lock, holding it steady with a breaker bar, then just torquing on it until either it came loose or the socket came unbenefited from the wheel lock

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/1/11 8:11 a.m.
Tyler H wrote: I've had great success with hammering a cheap 12pt socket over them also. I like SAE sockets for this task.

Yup. That is the only reason SAE sockets exist.

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
6/1/11 8:40 a.m.

Please don't damage my wheels! I to have had luck with the hammer a 12pt on on stuborn wheel locks. that said those appear to have a tapper on the lock sides that may make that not work. If that's the case the only option will probably be to either source a correct lock key, or drill out the stud (painfull and slow). You could try heating the stud a bit to stretch it and using a cold chisel to try to rotate the wheel lock however that would possibly damage the wheel (IF you go this route use the chisel radially to the stud to create a knotch you can then use to work it around).

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
6/1/11 8:42 a.m.

I definitely don't want to damage your wheels. I am going to stop by the local Discount Tire on my lunch and see if I can rent/borrow one of their removal sockets, otherwise I might get some of the bolt extractors to get them off.

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