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914Driver
914Driver SuperDork
2/25/10 7:59 a.m.

Nurburgring - 1970.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xwc54G2Ur8&annotation_id=annotation_675733&feature=iv

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
2/25/10 8:17 a.m.

That never gets old. axisofoversteer.com had a whole series of those up for a while. I think I've probably seen that about 20x and I'm mesmerized every time.

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk Reader
2/25/10 8:20 a.m.

Conclusive proof that anything with rear swing axles (911s exempted) will roll over when provoked. Renault R8s, NSUs,Simca 1300s and all the aircooled Vdubs make poor track rats, I guess. At least twice in this video, people flew out of the cars without seatbelts. Pretty amazing stuff.

Travis_K
Travis_K Dork
2/25/10 8:26 a.m.

I guess that explains where all the fiat 850s went, a few german track days and there wouldnt be any left. lol

EricM
EricM Dork
2/25/10 8:26 a.m.

I blame the "curb" right at the exit of that corner, a smoother transition to the grass would have kept a lot of those from going over.

OH, and WOW no one wore seat belts in 1970, and drove the Ring with their grocieries.

zomby woof
zomby woof HalfDork
2/25/10 8:32 a.m.

Wow at 30 seconds.

That's crazy.

EricM
EricM Dork
2/25/10 8:33 a.m.
zomby woof wrote: Wow at 30 seconds. That's crazy.

So, what did you do today?

Me? Oh, well I tried to kill my girlfriend....

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson HalfDork
2/25/10 8:36 a.m.

Wow.

Several things.

People bemoan modern safety standards, but I'd have really wished for anti burst locks, collapsible steering column and side air bags in a lot of those instances. ABS and stability control could have helped too.

What was the car at 5:10?

Remember to just ride it out if you go off. People who didn't try to save it after they were off tended to be OK, it was those who fought it that rolled.

It wasn't just swing axle cars that rolled.

I really hope everyone survived that.

Most of those were open lapping days, I really felt for the guy in a convertible VW bug with his family in there, I was holding my breath, luckily that one didn't go over!

I've taken my family round the ring, 4 up and I drove the whole time within my sight lines. I could have stopped at any point with no issue. Now after the family got out and I had a passenger who knew the track intimately, then it was a different matter.

zomby woof
zomby woof HalfDork
2/25/10 9:09 a.m.
EricM wrote: well I tried to kill my girlfriend....

It was the 70's.

You don't know for sure that was a girl...

Volksroddin
Volksroddin Dork
2/25/10 9:22 a.m.
DeadSkunk wrote: all the aircooled Vdubs make poor track rats

So you saying a ACWV is not a good track car?....Some of us here think FWD cars make for poor track rats,...hmm what about that?

914Driver
914Driver SuperDork
2/25/10 9:49 a.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote: Wow. What was the car at 5:10?

Dunno, looks Italian. Nice save by the Sonett driver at 7:00 too.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg SuperDork
2/25/10 10:02 a.m.

(Sarcasm) So why do we lower the roll center?

kreb
kreb GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/25/10 10:03 a.m.

That's just insane! The shot of a convertible bug fishtailing all over the place with two guys and two women inside had me pulling my hair out!

Martyr_of_Mayhem
Martyr_of_Mayhem New Reader
2/25/10 10:33 a.m.

All I have to says is, THANK GOD FOR SEAT BELTS.

MiatarPowar
MiatarPowar HalfDork
2/25/10 10:39 a.m.
914Driver wrote: Nice save by the Sonett driver at 7:00 too.

You got me all excited thinking that I'd see a car like my own being driven in anger, but I don't think that's a Sonett, unless it was heavily modified.

I don't know what that car is at 5:10, but I realllly like the look.

Did anyone else notice how often the doors flew open? Nuts

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/25/10 10:55 a.m.

scary... no seat belts, crap in the car... and the vw cabriolet with 4 people in it... Absolutly amazing.

And yes, I agree.. those few who were not afraid of the grass came out of that best

jgp1843
jgp1843 HalfDork
2/25/10 11:08 a.m.

Accuracy alert: Porsche 911s do not have swing axles. Neither do late model aircooled VWs.

DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer SuperDork
2/25/10 11:19 a.m.

Wow. They should change the background music to the Benny Hill theme song

Duke
Duke SuperDork
2/25/10 12:06 p.m.

I've seen other collections from there, but not that one. Yeah, in 1970 you wouldn't have thought seat belts would have been such a rarity.

And this proves my adage - you just never know how much E36 M3 you have in your car until you put it on its roof!

car39
car39 Reader
2/25/10 12:08 p.m.

I like the way the spectators hop out on the track as the car is still moving. It's almost Darwinian!

kreb
kreb GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/25/10 12:11 p.m.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea that the entire event is the antithesis of modern nannyism.

(Me circa 1980 two tiers up - Leaning tower of Pisa, speaking to attendant) "I notice that you don't have any safety barriers", attendant: "Who would be stupid enough to walk off the edge?"

914Driver
914Driver SuperDork
2/25/10 12:25 p.m.
MiatarPowar wrote:
914Driver wrote: Nice save by the Sonett driver at 7:00 too.
You got me all excited thinking that I'd see a car like my own being driven in anger, but I don't think that's a Sonett, unless it was heavily modified.

You're a SAAB guy and would know, I'm going with Sonett door handles and tail lights anyway. The rest of the car? Well it is Europe in the 70s, who the heck knows what it is.

Dan

96DXCivic
96DXCivic HalfDork
2/25/10 12:33 p.m.

In reply to MiatarPowar:

I think it is a Simca. Don't quote me on that.

racerdave600
racerdave600 Reader
2/25/10 12:34 p.m.
914Driver wrote:
Adrian_Thompson wrote: Wow. What was the car at 5:10?
Dunno, looks Italian. Nice save by the Sonett driver at 7:00 too.

At 5:10 it looks like a Matra Djet

racerdave600
racerdave600 Reader
2/25/10 12:35 p.m.

At 7:00 that is an Alfa Romeo Junior Zagato

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