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96DXCivic
96DXCivic HalfDork
2/25/10 12:42 p.m.

In reply to racerdave600:

I thought it was Matra Bagheera.

Edit: J/K the Bagheera wasn't built until 1973.

rob_lewis
rob_lewis Dork
2/25/10 12:51 p.m.

If everyone survived those, people in the '70s were TOUGH!

-Rob

Samurai07SS
Samurai07SS New Reader
2/25/10 12:57 p.m.

In reply to rob_lewis:

it's like the hot rod my dad just finished... a 1978 Ford Thunderbird. The car is as long as a contemporary Suburban, but has less room in than my 07 Cobalt. Figure that one out?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uOYKP-SYeE ^ give a little context to how far cars have come in 51 years!

oldsaw
oldsaw Dork
2/25/10 1:09 p.m.
racerdave600 wrote:
914Driver wrote:
Adrian_Thompson wrote: Wow. What was the car at 5:10?
Dunno, looks Italian. Nice save by the Sonett driver at 7:00 too.
At 5:10 it looks like a Matra Djet

I thought it was a Djet, too.

But, a search revealed there were no production cars with removeable roof panels. There were no factory convertible 1st gen CRX's either, yet they exist through the efforts of individuals.

Who the heck knows?

ditchdigger
ditchdigger Reader
2/25/10 1:31 p.m.

Oh man! all three of my projects are represented there. Fiat 850 coupe and sedan plus rear engine renaults

Granted the "good" handling cars like the 2002's and capris managed to get just as tangled up and outa control.

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/25/10 1:48 p.m.

4:47 i bet he lost more than just his shoe...

EricM
EricM Dork
2/25/10 1:50 p.m.

I did notice that none of the 911's or 914's went over. They spun, but didn't flip. I wonde if the drivers were better, or if the cars were just more stable?

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson HalfDork
2/25/10 2:11 p.m.
EricM wrote: I did notice that none of the 911's or 914's went over. They spun, but didn't flip. I wonde if the drivers were better, or if the cars were just more stable?

Probably a little lower, lower CG, better suspension. A combination of things. The less sporting cars had much less grip so were less likely to generate enough lateral G to be an issue, but me so much taller and softer that instability was an issue and far more likely to flip if they caught a curb or something when at max suspension compliance.

shadetree30
shadetree30 Dork
2/25/10 2:25 p.m.

I particularly appreciated the BMW 3-way at 1:07...

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/25/10 2:32 p.m.
jgp1843 wrote: Accuracy alert: Porsche 911s do not have swing axles. Neither do late model aircooled VWs.

VWs lost their swing axles on beetles in 68/69, depending on what transmission the car had

DrBoost
DrBoost Dork
2/25/10 4:38 p.m.

Watch 2:41 again. I think the guy ended up sitting ON the headrest. Look when he opens the door.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua SuperDork
2/25/10 4:44 p.m.
shadetree30 wrote: I particularly appreciated the BMW 3-way at 1:07...

Looked like an early attempt of a drifting exhibition.

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk Reader
2/25/10 5:47 p.m.

Volksroddin', nothing against a properly prepared ACVW, but the ones in that video weren't prepped. I have seen an ITC prepared Beetle. It was underpowered but handled nicely. I suppose that the same car with a bigger motor might actually be fun. As for front drive, it can be fun with proper mods. I've had two ITB Golfs that were entertaining to drive. I rolled one over the curbing, so I know how the guys in the video feel!

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk Reader
2/25/10 5:56 p.m.

I wonder what time elapsed to catch all those wrecks. I hope that was more than one day of carnage!

Luke
Luke SuperDork
2/25/10 8:55 p.m.
oldsaw wrote:
racerdave600 wrote:
914Driver wrote:
Adrian_Thompson wrote: Wow. What was the car at 5:10?
Dunno, looks Italian. Nice save by the Sonett driver at 7:00 too.
At 5:10 it looks like a Matra Djet
I thought it was a Djet, too. But, a search revealed there were no production cars with removeable roof panels. There were no factory convertible 1st gen CRX's either, yet they exist through the efforts of individuals. Who the heck knows?

It's a Matra 530, the model that came after the Djet.

Incredible video! Seems most (all?) the 911's managed to stay upright.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/25/10 9:49 p.m.

Gotta love the firefighters' equipment at around six minutes: No coats, no gloves, just a Nazi helmet and a hose.

MiatarPowar
MiatarPowar HalfDork
2/26/10 8:55 a.m.
Woody wrote: Gotta love the firefighters' equipment at around six minutes: No coats, no gloves, just a Nazi helmet and a hose.

And a sweet Citroen firetruck.

zomby woof
zomby woof HalfDork
2/26/10 10:33 a.m.
DeadSkunk wrote: I wonder what time elapsed to catch all those wrecks. I hope that was more than one day of carnage!

You'd think after the first week they might make helmets, and seatbelts mandatory.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson HalfDork
2/26/10 11:19 a.m.
zomby woof wrote:
DeadSkunk wrote: I wonder what time elapsed to catch all those wrecks. I hope that was more than one day of carnage!
You'd think after the first week they might make helmets, and seatbelts mandatory.

Still don't need a helmet on the ring. It's not a race track, it's a one way toll road with no speed limit, but traffic laws apply. A few years ago some German cops from another area caused a wreck and got a ticket from the local cops for passing on the wrong side of the road!

Type Q
Type Q HalfDork
2/26/10 11:48 a.m.

I looked at some of the related videos of the same area from the last ten years. It looks like there is more run-off room at that corner now. There is certainly better spectator protection. It also looks like newed vehicle may be less prone to roll-overs.

rogerbvonceg
rogerbvonceg New Reader
2/26/10 12:10 p.m.
EricM wrote: I did notice that none of the 911's or 914's went over. They spun, but didn't flip. I wonde if the drivers were better, or if the cars were just more stable?

Nor the Mk I Capris, although there were only two of them. One of them went over the hill, though and got pretty banged up.

Just could not believe the complete disregard for all the safety measures we now take for granted. In lieu of nannyism, there has to be some common sense applied, no?

rogerbvonceg
rogerbvonceg New Reader
2/26/10 12:15 p.m.

Nor the Alfa.

Vigo
Vigo Reader
2/26/10 1:53 p.m.

scary stuff. cool vid though.

Rusnak_322
Rusnak_322 Reader
2/27/10 6:40 a.m.
rob_lewis wrote: If everyone survived those, people in the '70s were TOUGH! -Rob

You just know that most of those people probably had a cigarette in their mouth as they sawed on the wheel trying not to flip.

I have not played X-box Forza 3 yet, but it would be sweet to have a few of the cars flip if you took a turn wrong.

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
2/27/10 7:23 a.m.

A green Ferrari Dino sneaks through at the bottom of the vid at 3:09.

That must be one helluva corner for a 914 to spin and blow a tire off a rim (3:59). Reckon the lawyers can sue for such an obviously unsafe condition?

At 6:55 I believe the ACVW driver's champagne bottle blows its cork. No celebration for him!

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