Ok, now make a 4-door (call it, I don't know, maybe the "Falcon?") and you'll have forced me into the new car market.
Ok, now make a 4-door (call it, I don't know, maybe the "Falcon?") and you'll have forced me into the new car market.
noddaz wrote: Looks a little chunky to me...
You've heard of 'murdered out', this is 'ninja-ed out'!
RossD wrote:noddaz wrote: Looks a little chunky to me...You've heard of 'murdered out', this is 'ninja-ed out'!
Once again, I sure hope they don't get paid for pictures like that. It show exactly nothing except that it's a prototype, and with 2 doors, you can narrow it down to a Mustang or Camaro.
I remember the shocking video that had it moving. Think of that, a prototype with an engine that moves the car. Amazing.
(and no, I don't know any details of the Mustang. None)
I'll have to see it to believe it; we were told the Vette would be lighter too. I'm happy that the crappy stick axle will be gone though, and by the sounds of it they're stepping up their game and appealing to a larger and possibly younger audience. There better not be an Aston Martin clone grill on it like the rest of their lineup!
-Hamid
AverageH wrote: There better not be an Aston Martin clone grill on it like the rest of their lineup! -Hamid
Well if it's like this it wouldn't be too bad. 
Aston Martin clone with 450 hp for under 40k? Yeah, I wouldn't kick that out of bed. And I'm not sure that you could make a new Mustang appeal to a broader audience than it currently does unless you gave them away for free. They're everywhere.
I'm pretty sure the 'crappy stick axle' hasn't been holding the recent ones back very much either.
Having said all that, a smaller, lighter, 450hp mustang would be of interest to me. I might consider trading in my 05 for a 150hp bump and a 200lb loss in weight, especially if they can improve the base-line handling. But I'll believe it when they hit the lots in that configuration.
petegossett wrote:AverageH wrote: There better not be an Aston Martin clone grill on it like the rest of their lineup! -HamidWell if it's like this it wouldn't be too bad.
Haven't they been down that road before?
uh, no.
nocones wrote:petegossett wrote:Haven't they been down that road before?AverageH wrote: There better not be an Aston Martin clone grill on it like the rest of their lineup! -HamidWell if it's like this it wouldn't be too bad.
FWIW, I always considered that Vantage V8 to be styled a bit like the mustang, not the other way around
6.5" narrower?,so who's doing the market research-rednecks tend to be wider than most so...
AverageH wrote: There better not be an Aston Martin clone grill on it like the rest of their lineup!
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I would post the link to the updated spy shots, but it came from Jalopnik, and I know the vitriol toward that site.
While I think the Aston Martin clone-nose thing actually looks pretty good, I can't get past the transparent attempt to co-opt cachet the cars don't deserve. It always reminds me of this, regardless of how much better-looking they are:
I honestly don't know what to hope for with the Mustang. Both another take on the retro thing, or a clean sheet of paper could both be done well or poorly.
Ugh.
So Aston Martin makes a car that looks like the Mustang, both companies keep maintaining the general look for nostalgia/historical reasons, and now people get the order of who copied who confused?
This is like the FD wankers who think the C5 was intended to look like an RX-7, forgetting what the original RX-7 was designed to look like.
ultraclyde wrote: I'm pretty sure the 'crappy stick axle' hasn't been holding the recent ones back very much either.
friend of mine has a 10 or an 11 (I forget which) and he says that the stick axle on his new Mustang is a lot more of a handful than the ones on his previous. He is a serial Musang buyer, so I tend to believe him
mad_machine wrote:ultraclyde wrote: I'm pretty sure the 'crappy stick axle' hasn't been holding the recent ones back very much either.friend of mine has a 10 or an 11 (I forget which) and he says that the stick axle on his new Mustang is a lot more of a handful than the ones on his previous. He is a serial Musang buyer, so I tend to believe him
I dare anyone who speaks things like this to isolate the rear axle articulation method above all other variables. It's almost as if people forget there are things like tire compounds, spring rates, damper valving, anti squat amongst hundreds of others, and people always just say [whatever undesirable behavior] is because of the stick axle. right.
tuna55 wrote:mad_machine wrote:I dare anyone who speaks things like this to isolate the rear axle articulation method above all other variables. It's almost as if people forget there are things like tire compounds, spring rates, damper valving, anti squat amongst hundreds of others, and people always just say [whatever undesirable behavior] is because of the stick axle. right.ultraclyde wrote: I'm pretty sure the 'crappy stick axle' hasn't been holding the recent ones back very much either.friend of mine has a 10 or an 11 (I forget which) and he says that the stick axle on his new Mustang is a lot more of a handful than the ones on his previous. He is a serial Musang buyer, so I tend to believe him
+1. Herb Adams talks about when Trans Am was running both IRS or stick axle there was no real difference in lap times between the two.
Although the extra unsprung weight doesn't help on surfaces that aren't smooth.
mad_machine wrote:ultraclyde wrote: I'm pretty sure the 'crappy stick axle' hasn't been holding the recent ones back very much either.friend of mine has a 10 or an 11 (I forget which) and he says that the stick axle on his new Mustang is a lot more of a handful than the ones on his previous. He is a serial Musang buyer, so I tend to believe him
Cool, so his experience goes against 99.9% of what everyone else is saying.
Lulz at the quadra-bind being better than the new gen 3 link.
Knurled wrote: So Aston Martin makes a car that looks like the Mustang, both companies keep maintaining the general look for nostalgia/historical reasons, and now people get the order of who copied who confused?
Maybe you would care to enlighten the uninformed masses rather than beating around the bush with vague implications.
In reply to Driven5:
Its already been covered previously in this thread.
I've also heard about a possible 'SVO' type Mustang with a turbo 4.
Would be interesting to see an EcoBoost variant as well.
93EXCivic wrote: <+1. Herb Adams talks about when Trans Am was running both IRS or stick axle there was no real difference in lap times between the two. Although the extra unsprung weight doesn't help on surfaces that aren't smooth.
That is the issue he is talking about. He does not strip his stang, it is a driver. The roads around here are quite rough and the stiffness needed to control the axle has meant that the rear does step out of place at times
In reply to bravenrace:
Right. That this isn't the first time Ford has copied Aston Martin...Although now they've essentially stolen one of the most characteristic and iconic Aston Martin styling cues and are shamelessly trying to pass it off as their own brand identity.
In reply to Driven5:
At least Ford did it before Kia could......which is fitting since ford bankrolled AM for awhile.
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