SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid UltimaDork
4/14/15 11:35 a.m.

So I have had the privilege of driving a rental this past weekend. It's a 2014 Toyota Camry SE. I'll be honest and I rolled my eyes when I saw the attendant pull the car up at the rental place, but it definitely isn't like the Camry I grew up with.

It took a little getting used to but after a couple days, I got a good feeling for the Camry.

Drivetrain-

This is this SE version of the Camry, so it comes with the 180hp 2AR-FE 4-Cylinder mated to a 6-speed automatic. For 180hp, it pulls this car along very well. Passing is not something you have to worry about, there's enough grunt down low to get you out of harms way. I had plenty of pulls on some two-lane black top passing farm equipment and cattle trailers. Being an SE model, the transmission has a sport mode that includes flappy paddles. Surprisingly, when in sport mode, the computer holds the gears into the redline, which helps for more spirited driving.

Steering and Suspension-

So, I'm going to lay it out there: I do not like electric steering. This is no exception. It's numb and there's very little feedback from the road (except bumps), kind of like the old arcade racing games before force feedback became the norm.

Suspension is like most non-sport, mid-size passenger sedans of today, you can feel most road imperfections, but it stays pretty tight in the corners. I got a chance to take the Camry down some windy river roads that showed that it could handle some curves pretty well.

The P215/75R17 Bridgestone Turanzas do a good job of keeping down the road noise. They have pretty descent traction on dry pavement and in the rain.

Interior-

The interior is not too shabby. Toyota really tried to make it look like a luxury car interior with some stitching across the soft material on the dashboard. The seats have a nice bolster to them and were pretty comfortable overall. The synthetic leather though feels extremely cheap. I get the reasoning to use it, but it's a little ridiculous how hard it is.

Space was not an issue seeing that I am 6'2" and I had a friend who is the same height sit in the back seat and he was plenty comfortable. There was definitely enough elbow room too on each side of the seats. The trunk had plenty of room to haul most anything that you could fit in a car trunk, it was quite deep and with the fold down rear seats it definitely increased the depth.

The controls were typical Toyota and were very easy to use. The HVAC controls were very simple and really don't need explanation. The steering wheel controls were easy, but the way they were designed looks a little awkward, but after a while you don't even notice them.

The gauges were easy to read, but my biggest gripe is the "Average MPG" gauge which made no sense on this particular model seeing that it was obviously made for the Hybrid, plus you can select through the digital read out to tell you what the average MPG is. The blue needles were different and didn't bother me, but I would have preferred red needles. At night the blue is just too soft, there needs to be a more aggressive color.

The radio is pretty decent. I figured it out pretty quickly without having to read an owners manual. Syncing my phone over the Bluetooth was pain free and rather simple. It made calls without hassle and the steering controls worked well. It played Pandora with no problem and even showed the tracks.

Overall, I liked the Camry. If this was a daily driver, I would be very comfortable with it. The SE is pretty nice for what it is. There are definitely better cars, but this would be a good car for the significant other that isn't picky, but wants an automatic. The SE package definitely makes the Camry a little more bearable for the person who wants a sportier car. I personally would think a 6-speed manual would be great in this car and would make even more fun. It definitely doesn't feel like the Camry of yore.

BlueInGreen44
BlueInGreen44 HalfDork
4/14/15 11:38 a.m.

So the ads touting the new Camry as "fun to drive" aren't as full of BS as I originally thought? The last generation of Camry was, by far, the most boring car I've ever driven.

drummerfromdefleopard
drummerfromdefleopard GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/14/15 11:43 a.m.

Dear Toyota, would it kill you to put nonintrusive truck struts in place of swing arms.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/14/15 11:56 a.m.
SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: So, I'm going to lay it out there: I do not like electric steering. This is no exception. It's numb and there's very little feedback from the road (except bumps), kind of like the old arcade racing games before force feedback became the norm.

Hey it doesn't have to suck, it's just that most EPS systems weren't intended to be sporty, just like any old-fashioned hydraulic power steering system really. The S2k, NSX, Toyobaru, and C7 Corvette all have direct-drive EPS, and it's becoming common among high-end sports cars and supercars.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce PowerDork
4/14/15 11:57 a.m.

How long is the car from the back of the trunk to the console with the seats down? (If you still have it in your posession?) The old skier in me is always curious about this. Also the part of me that likes to carry 8 foot 2x4's in inappropriate vehicles.

Driven5
Driven5 Dork
4/14/15 12:25 p.m.
SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: I got a chance to take the Camry down some windy river roads that showed that it could handle some curves pretty well.

Either the SE must have massively improved suspension tuning and tires than the Hybrid we used as a loaner this past year, or you have a very different driving style than me, as attempting to drive in anything even slightly resembling an enthusiastic manner resulted in it turning into a soul-sucking steaming pile of excrement. The handling on our 2010 RAV4 Sport is lightyears ahead of that Camry Hybrid.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid UltimaDork
4/14/15 12:53 p.m.

In reply to Driven5:

I think the first issue at hand is the fact you were driving the hybrid. They run different tires and are heavier.

06HHR
06HHR HalfDork
4/14/15 1:29 p.m.

Jack Baruth said the Camry SE was a sleeper in terms of handling, who'd a thunk he was serious? I've never been able to get comfortable in Camry seats though, any generation.

Driven5
Driven5 Dork
4/14/15 2:13 p.m.

In reply to SyntheticBlinkerFluid:

I knew they had 'eco' tires and battery weight...But crappy tires and a few hundred pounds don't necessarily make a decent handling car horrible. I guess I hoped Toyota would have put at least some effort into making the hybrid drive reasonably similar to the non-hybrid. Just one more case of me not being disappointed to be wrong.

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/14/15 2:47 p.m.
Driven5 wrote: In reply to SyntheticBlinkerFluid: I knew they had 'eco' tires and battery weight...But crappy tires and a few hundred pounds don't necessarily make a decent handling car horrible.

Yes it does.

SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid UltimaDork
4/14/15 3:06 p.m.
mazdeuce wrote: How long is the car from the back of the trunk to the console with the seats down? (If you still have it in your posession?) The old skier in me is always curious about this. Also the part of me that likes to carry 8 foot 2x4's in inappropriate vehicles.

I would say it's probably 8 feet easily, maybe a little more. I didn't have a tape measure, but that would be my guess.

erohslc
erohslc Dork
4/14/15 3:23 p.m.

I once saw a Beige Camry, with flames on the side, painted in slightly lighter and darker paint.
It was either the most Brilliant, or most Lame thing I've seen in a long time.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/14/15 3:35 p.m.
erohslc wrote: I once saw a Beige Camry, with flames on the side, painted in slightly lighter and darker paint. It was either the most Brilliant, or most Lame thing I've seen in a long time.

Bwahaha, I say brilliant

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
4/14/15 3:40 p.m.

So, was it Grounded to the Ground?

SyntheticBlinkerFluid
SyntheticBlinkerFluid UltimaDork
4/14/15 3:45 p.m.

In reply to Bobzilla:

I would say yes. I feel like it definitely had a good suspension set up, but put some wheels with good tires and I bet it could do pretty well in an autocross. Maybe a 1" drop too.

stanger_missle
stanger_missle GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/14/15 4:45 p.m.
Bobzilla wrote: So, was it Grounded to the Ground?

Came here to ask that. Did not leave disappointed

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltimaDork
4/14/15 5:00 p.m.
SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: In reply to Bobzilla: I would say yes. I feel like it definitely had a good suspension set up, but put some wheels with good tires and I bet it could do pretty well in an autocross. Maybe a 1" drop too.

sO...some chrome rims and lights like real car guys like?

Driven5
Driven5 Dork
4/14/15 6:03 p.m.
turboswede wrote:
Driven5 wrote: In reply to SyntheticBlinkerFluid: I knew they had 'eco' tires and battery weight...But crappy tires and a few hundred pounds don't necessarily make a decent handling car horrible.
Yes it does.

Uh oh...That means my enjoyment of other decent handling cars with crappy tires and multiple passengers must have all been just a dream.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill PowerDork
4/14/15 6:34 p.m.

Is the 2014 before they got bold?

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