Grtechguy wrote:ebonyandivory wrote: Edit: I might enjoy sending my truck out for mulch, having it back up my trailer and dump it in my backyard!Or go back to the hardware store for the 3rd time during that small plumbing project
Oh man, sooo true!
Grtechguy wrote:ebonyandivory wrote: Edit: I might enjoy sending my truck out for mulch, having it back up my trailer and dump it in my backyard!Or go back to the hardware store for the 3rd time during that small plumbing project
Oh man, sooo true!
here is a question though... we have all seen it when a brand new car comes out that is very distinct. Remember when the new Mini first came out? people were speeding up, slowing down, and generally being asses around them just to get a good look.
The Google car is -very- distinct looking.. I am sure people want to get a good look at it. If they were testing them in say, Honda Fits, or Toyota Yarises.. nobody would notice
yamaha wrote: In reply to chiodos: I personally love seeing new Mercedes brake automatically when I merge in front of them.....
Hey! Maybe that will keep them from dawdling in the left lane. Around here MB & BMW drivers poke in the left lane worse than Caddy drivers! Then when you have to pass them on the right to get anywhere, they get all tore up.
As you already, know I'm old. So I'll remind some of you of an old gimmick song from the early '60s, I think. "Beep beep Beep beep" It's about a caddy driver who was trying to keep a guy in a Nash Rambler from passing him. Finally the guy in the Rambler yelled. "How do I get this thing out of 2nd gear?" (For you younger folk, most N.A. branded autos only had three speed manuals at that time.)
Knurled wrote:Trans_Maro wrote: Thank god there will be no self-driving motorcycles.There will be, but it's okay, you can hack those.
Cars are too! It's already happening everyday! Key free car locks are super easy to hack into & then steal whatever you want from inside or in the trunk!
Rupert wrote:Knurled wrote:Cars are too! It's already happening everyday! Key free car locks are super easy to hack into & then steal whatever you want from inside or in the trunk!Trans_Maro wrote: Thank god there will be no self-driving motorcycles.There will be, but it's okay, you can hack those.
Not just cars...
"Now we're doing a hundred twenty as fast as i could go."
Good song (I'm 44).
Trackmouse wrote: http://www.ktvz.com/news/money/google-human-drivers-are-the-problem/32982402 Sheeple. That's the issue. It's talk like this that will get rid of steering wheels.
About the time this happens i'll move to a real country because this wouldn't be a real country to me anymore.
However I don't think it will, people fight so hard against gun legislation here I doubt they will just sit down and take not being able to drive their property anymore.
However with how nanny our car laws are becoming i'll probably have to move to Russia. Men will probably still exist there.
Be a man amongst ladies. Sausage fest no more.
kanaric wrote: However with how nanny our car laws are becoming i'll probably have to move to Russia. Men will probably still exist there.
Da, yis is true
mad_machine wrote: < Not just cars... Hackable Doll Cayla
That's a riot.
It's like a really creepy poetic justice for Luddites.
Trackmouse wrote: http://www.ktvz.com/news/money/google-human-drivers-are-the-problem/32982402 Sheeple. That's the issue. It's talk like this that will get rid of steering wheels.
You say that like it's a bad thing. I'd feel much safer driving down deserted back roads if Mr. Tougepants had to trundle along at the speed limit and wasn't trying to drift his car after getting hyped up on Initial-D reruns.
http://www.skepticink.com/incredulous/2015/05/14/googlecars-1-million-miles-with-0-accidents-upsets-media/
Think of it this way. People used to ride horses everywhere, then we invented cars, horses got relegated to recreational uses, when we get driver-less cars we'll still have our manual driven cars, they'll just be used for recreation instead of daily wear and tear. I don't have a problem with that.
I don't have a problem with it either.
I have a problem with all the other stuff that comes with it. The "Big Brother-esque" things like tracking me, controlling me, having my automated car make decisions for me, having other people's automated cars telling my car what to do, giving my detailed info to the government, the insurance company, hackers, whatever.
I am simply not interested in encouraging it, because it is NOT about safety or transportation. It is about money and control.
I do not trust Ford, Google, or Apple to make decisions for me.
So few people seem to understand the implications. See "My Best Friend Cayla" above.
Does anybody really WANT to live in a place where our children's best friends are machines designed by (security challenged) toy companies hackable by novices so Freddy Kruger can whisper sweet nothings in a child's ear and tell her which sadistic bastard she should ride home with?
We don't need to worry about someone taking our money, rights, privileges, or responsibilities from us.
We are prepared to sign the licensing agreement without reading it and GIVE those things away just so we can have the next thing that is cool, trendy, convenient, or high tech.
t25torx wrote: Think of it this way. People used to ride horses everywhere, then we invented cars, horses got relegated to recreational uses, when we get driver-less cars we'll still have our manual driven cars, they'll just be used for recreation instead of daily wear and tear. I don't have a problem with that.
no one yet has made any convincing argument for how the DD robot cars will handle all the little no name side roads, all the parking lots (individual parking places) all the home driveways and garages …. I'm reasonably sure it won't happen in my lifetime … maybe not in a couple of lifetimes
ebonyandivory wrote: It's not even remotely likely that the cars will use gps for the "skills" of driving in traffic. Gps can tell them where they are in real time but i think the real breakthroughs are crash avoidance, lane changes, merging etc. all those things are separate from GPS. Not that I'm telling you guys anything you don't already know. Edit: I might enjoy sending my truck out for mulch, having it back up my trailer and dump it in my backyard!
Interesting thought (to me, anyway): if you send your autonomous car out to do an errand and it's in an accident, are you going to be held responsible?
Any autonomous car is going to have to know where it is, thus there will be a GPS component. Otherwise all the roads will have to be wired and the cost for that would be just freakin' astronomical. Remember, Google wants the driver to have NO input; it won't have a steering wheel or pedals and will be expected to go anywhere you want to be taken. Fairly simple to do in a city, but what about out in the boondocks?
I still rejoice that I probably won't be around to see this idiocy implemented.
Curmudgeon wrote: Interesting thought (to me, anyway): if you send your autonomous car out to do an errand and it's in an accident, are you going to be held responsible?
Yes.
Knurled wrote:Curmudgeon wrote: Interesting thought (to me, anyway): if you send your autonomous car out to do an errand and it's in an accident, are you going to be held responsible?Yes.
I seriously doubt the right answer is anywhere near that simplistic.
wbjones wrote:t25torx wrote: Think of it this way. People used to ride horses everywhere, then we invented cars, horses got relegated to recreational uses, when we get driver-less cars we'll still have our manual driven cars, they'll just be used for recreation instead of daily wear and tear. I don't have a problem with that.no one yet has made any convincing argument for how the DD robot cars will handle all the little no name side roads, all the parking lots (individual parking places) all the home driveways and garages ….
Cameras, proximity sensors, and AI decision making. Do self parking cars now use GPS to do it? Nope.
wbjones wrote:t25torx wrote: Think of it this way. People used to ride horses everywhere, then we invented cars, horses got relegated to recreational uses, when we get driver-less cars we'll still have our manual driven cars, they'll just be used for recreation instead of daily wear and tear. I don't have a problem with that.no one yet has made any convincing argument for how the DD robot cars will handle all the little no name side roads, all the parking lots (individual parking places) all the home driveways and garages …. I'm reasonably sure it won't happen in my lifetime … maybe not in a couple of lifetimes
Well, with driverless cars you can also change the ownership structure. So for example, instead of me leasing a car, I can pay a monthly service to have a car available to me at all times. That means when I go into a store or something, the car might not even have to park. it just drops me off at the front, and then comes back when i'm done. I don't particularly care if it decides to park and wait for me or do something else. Also, as long as I know and am prepared, I wouldn't even particularly care if the SAME car comes back for me.
Taxis get REALLY cheap when you don't have to pay the driver.
Could one be hacked to do unmanned burnouts while you filmed it and posted to youtube before the smoke cleared?
And if an unmanned car ran over my cat, would it just look the other way?
In reply to Fr3AkAzOiD: Hey THAT WORKS!
SVreX wrote:Knurled wrote:I seriously doubt the right answer is anywhere near that simplistic.Curmudgeon wrote: Interesting thought (to me, anyway): if you send your autonomous car out to do an errand and it's in an accident, are you going to be held responsible?Yes.
Time for an old quote from someone, tempted to say it was Mark Twain but can't remember one way or another. And I'm old, the quote may not be letter perfect but it certainly applies today's world! "A town with one lawyer has a very poor lawyer. A town with two or more lawyers is always in court."
rcutclif wrote:wbjones wrote:Well, with driverless cars you can also change the ownership structure. So for example, instead of me leasing a car, I can pay a monthly service to have a car available to me at all times. That means when I go into a store or something, the car might not even have to park. it just drops me off at the front, and then comes back when i'm done. I don't particularly care if it decides to park and wait for me or do something else. Also, as long as I know and am prepared, I wouldn't even particularly care if the SAME car comes back for me. Taxis get REALLY cheap when you don't have to pay the driver.t25torx wrote: Think of it this way. People used to ride horses everywhere, then we invented cars, horses got relegated to recreational uses, when we get driver-less cars we'll still have our manual driven cars, they'll just be used for recreation instead of daily wear and tear. I don't have a problem with that.no one yet has made any convincing argument for how the DD robot cars will handle all the little no name side roads, all the parking lots (individual parking places) all the home driveways and garages …. I'm reasonably sure it won't happen in my lifetime … maybe not in a couple of lifetimes
good gods.. I never thought of that aspect of a driverless car. It would clear congestion in town as you could just have big lots outside of the city where they could sit and wait till you needed it
In reply to mad_machine:
I doubt Google would want it to sit at all.
It would pickup 3 more rides while you picked up your groceries.
It would clear congestion by putting 3 taxi drivers and a dispatcher out of work, not by parking outside of town.
Toyman01 wrote: Since several crashes occurred while people were driving them, they might want to hire some better drivers as well.
They were too busy texting.
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