So exactly what is this fad called?

Slammed duallys are seven levels of awesome.

And yeah - low COG is the buzzword dujour in off roading. Big tires to get diff clearance and the ability to roll over big stuff, coupled with little or no lift and a lot of body trimming to keep it stable.

40's on a JK with no lift.

mndsm wrote:

gamby wrote: This is the car and it is pretty fantastic/game-changing/trendsetting IMHO: That said, the hater in me has to wonder where a 20-year-old gets the green to do this.

Used e36, some cheap bags, and a set of used AMG Hammers? I bet he's got less than 15k into that total. I had that kind of money when I was 20, but I spent it on stereo instead. Amazing what you can do when you have 0 responsibility.

I disagree with the "gamechanging/trendsetting" comments as well, as I stated earlier this started long before he could drive in Germany. And also like I stated earlier I like the cars, but not the douchebag attitude that alot of those guys have.

I mean really? When I built S52 car with BBK, etc. I could have much more cheaply thrown stiffer springs on my coilovers, bought a set of BBS RSs and slammed it for less money.

However, the car is sitting on ASTs with an S54 swap (E46 M3/Z4M engine), that alone has pushed you past the $10k mark.

mndsm wrote:

gamby wrote: This is the car and it is pretty fantastic/game-changing/trendsetting IMHO: That said, the hater in me has to wonder where a 20-year-old gets the green to do this.

Used e36, some cheap bags, and a set of used AMG Hammers? I bet he's got less than 15k into that total. I had that kind of money when I was 20, but I spent it on stereo instead. Amazing what you can do when you have 0 responsibility.

I disagree with the "gamechanging/trendsetting" comments as well, as I stated earlier this started long before he could drive in Germany. And also like I stated earlier I like the cars, but not the douchebag attitude that alot of those guys have.

I mean really? When I built S52 car with BBK, etc. I could have much more cheaply thrown stiffer springs on my coilovers, bought a set of BBS RSs and slammed it for less money.

However, the car is sitting on ASTs with an S54 swap (E46 M3/Z4M engine), that alone has pushed you past the $10k mark.

Used e36, some cheap bags, and a set of used AMG Hammers? I bet he's got less than 15k into that total.

Lol. Wrong.

Most of you seem to forget that HellaFlush isn't about demon camber. Demon camber is just a few scattered crazies doing it wrong. Most of us in the stance scene don't think that excessive camber leads to a good looking car. It's all about a balance between the drop, wheel fitment, stretch, and body work (among other things) that gives a car great stance.

It's funny that no matter what forum a stance hating thread pops up, Mike Burroughs is mentioned. He started building his E36 way before he even bought his no famous E28, Rusty. The E36 has gone through a long process and really is built to perfection. His E28 and his E36 are built for different purposes.

People here are in to cars that handle well, people over at StanceWorks are into cars that look great. Pretty much end of story. Only difference is that quite a few people at SW also go weak in the knees when we see a well built track car. Rauh-welt much?

jpod999 wrote: Most of us in the stance scene

This is just me expressing my old man gtf off my lawnness....Love it or hate it I dont want to be part of anything that is defined as a scene.

Greg Voth wrote: I say a 70's Camaro.

My 1981 Camaro, but close enough...

Gimp wrote:

Greg Voth wrote: I say a 70's Camaro.

My 1981 Camaro, but close enough...

I like your stance.

Gimp:

I like your smile- matches the smile on your avatar!

JThw8 wrote:

jpod999 wrote: Most of us in the stance scene

Love it or hate it I dont want to be part of anything that is defined as a scene.

I understand....the Frankenberg is proof that you've got enough creativity to do something different.

In a "scene," whether it is automotive or otherwise, people do exactly the same thing as one another in an effort to distinguish themselves as different.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: I like your stance.

SVreX wrote: Gimp: I like your smile- matches the smile on your avatar!

Thanks! The stance is from the wooden blocks in the back, the smile is from my mommy.

JoeyM wrote:

JThw8 wrote:

jpod999 wrote: Most of us in the stance scene

Love it or hate it I dont want to be part of anything that is defined as a scene.

I understand....the Frankenberg is proof that you've got enough creativity to do something different. In a "scene," whether it is automotive or otherwise, people do exactly the same thing as one another in an effort to distinguish themselves as different.

LOL...exactly...they are different, just like all the rest of their friends ;)

Althought I have been told we are hellaflush.... suppressing a small amount of vomit

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DILYSI Dave wrote: And yeah - low COG is the buzzword dujour in off roading. Big tires to get diff clearance and the ability to roll over big stuff, coupled with little or no lift and a lot of body trimming to keep it stable. 40's on a JK with no lift.

HOW!?

CarKid1989 wrote:

DILYSI Dave wrote: And yeah - low COG is the buzzword dujour in off roading. Big tires to get diff clearance and the ability to roll over big stuff, coupled with little or no lift and a lot of body trimming to keep it stable. 40's on a JK with no lift.

HOW!?

A LOT of trimming.

Gimp wrote:

Greg Voth wrote: I say a 70's Camaro.

My 1981 Camaro, but close enough...

Ah, that picture was from the back. I was trying to figure out what kind of car had that weird, grill-less nose.

D_Howard wrote: Dually is DROP dead sexy, need it.

I wonder how long it will take for safety concerns to fade and people on this forum start to express similar sentiments regarding demon camber ...

DILYSI Dave wrote: Slammed duallys are seven levels of awesome.

Long have I lusted over a slammed crew-cab dually. Just awesome in their rediculousness...

Anyway, here's a video showing the builder of that E36 talking about it ("upped the springrates considerably [like 1500lbs maybe?]" and "sits about 2 - 3" off the ground and never bottoms out; and handles like its on rails". Right.... The thing must have 1 - 2" or so of suspension travel, but in the video you can see it being driven. Mind you its on the same small patch of billiard-smooth pavement, but hey, it does seem to be "streetable".... God forbid you encounter a speed bump somewhere, tho....

http://www.awol.tv/episodes/1?episode=89

And as far as the whole "stretch+low+stance" scene, this is old hat in Europe. I have an old issue of Max Power magazine w/ this Rieger E36 M3 on the cover. I think it was like a '99 or '00 issue:

MrBenjamonkey wrote:

D_Howard wrote: Dually is DROP dead sexy, need it.

I wonder how long it will take for safety concerns to fade and people on this forum start to express similar sentiments regarding demon camber ...

I think it's goofy.

SVreX wrote:

MrBenjamonkey wrote:

D_Howard wrote: Dually is DROP dead sexy, need it.

I wonder how long it will take for safety concerns to fade and people on this forum start to express similar sentiments regarding demon camber ...

I think it's goofy.

GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

SVreX wrote:

MrBenjamonkey wrote:

D_Howard wrote: Dually is DROP dead sexy, need it.

I wonder how long it will take for safety concerns to fade and people on this forum start to express similar sentiments regarding demon camber ...

I think it's goofy.

Me too.