I wonder how much the 73-87 trucks share with the 67-72 on the front suspension.
This guy apparently has a pretty decent setup on this truck that still runs stock front upper and lower control arms. The rear on this truck is truck arms of course, so not much help to be found there.
In reply to SkinnyG:
Yeah, the truck I'm wanting to get my hands on has a muncie 4-spd instead of an auto. I was thinking to start off in hte right direction some 17x9's and 275/40/17's.truck currently set up with bigs-n-littles in 15 right now (255/205/70/15). As budget increased I could step up to some 12's and 315's. get some good shocks, front and rear sway bars, bucket seats and enjoy an awesome cruiser that can make a few corners too.
Because all threads without pictures are worthless....
this is what I'm trying to raise money for:
Chadeux wrote: I wonder how much the 73-87 trucks share with the 67-72 on the front suspension.
Literally everything
I would not put a muncie in a truck.
Think Super T10 with a large input shaft.
Bobzilla wrote: Because all threads without pictures are worthless.... this is what I'm trying to raise money for:
I love the step sides! Get it, get in now!
Can't swing the price unfortunately. Unless I can get some random stuff sold and maybe donate a kidney
Yeah, for cheap handling I'd look at the Targa truck posted above for the front. Really simple setup.
The front suspension components are VERY low on this truck, made worse with dropped spindles. Currently on mine, the lower a-arms are off the ground less than a 2x4 on edge.
If I were to do it again, and not as pressed to complete it as I was, I would Z the front, and probably pancake the crossmember as well. I'd want the frame rails to be the lowest point of the chassis, and that might mean raising the saddle tanks as well.
Of course, that might not be legal.
(hasn't stopped me before)
I'm a "square-body" fan, especially of the 73-79 round headlight trucks. I think these look good in a short or long box. I become a fan a long time ago in the 80's in high school, when a friend of mine and his dad had a 77 C10 long box with a built 350.
I'm glad I bought my 79 GMC short box 3-4 years ago, because they are becoming popular and the prices are climbing. The 80's square headlight square body's tend to be a little less, also if they have a 305.
patgizz wrote:Chadeux wrote: I wonder how much the 73-87 trucks share with the 67-72 on the front suspension.Literally everything
No!
73+
67-72
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=504817
NickD wrote:Javelin wrote: In reply to sesto elemento: All three of those examples have 0% C10 suspension. Also 0% frame. Also 0% drivetrain.And even if they did have any C10 left underneath, they are the earlier generation that used completely different suspension. The '67-'72s had truck-arm rear suspension, the '73-'87 had leaf springs. Belltech, Air Ride Technologies/Ridetech and CPP all are well-known companies that offer a range of bolt-on or more fab-intensive suspension parts that flat-out work
Not entirely true.
Many 67-72 rear suspensions (including mine) were leaf spring. Mostly GMC's, though nobody seems to have a great handle on why.
Read this for some pointers:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?p=7820581#post7820581
I'm just going to bump this, even though it's not exactly related. Bobzilla's taste tends to wander a bit, but is generally limited to RWD V8s with pushrods in older American things.
Found this while browsing and thought of Bobzilla immediately: squarebody s10 with beginnings of a 5.3 swap, and it's fairly local I believe. It's rough, but well under your stated budget, and the ad mentions that the asking price is a negotiable starting point. With some time and money, it could be everything you want. Even if Bob doesn't want it, it could be an interesting start to a Challenge build for a Midwest GRMer.
In reply to STM317:
Bobzilla wrote: I've had a love of these since my folks bought their new 1980 C10 in 1980. Granted,theirs was a 250/3 on the tree, but it was a beautiful blue. I always loved the metal dash and hte individual gauges. So, how bad was the front suspension geometry and can they be made to handle well?
Simple, just replace the shock absorbers with steel rods, and hang on !!!
In reply to Bobzilla:
That works too. Buy it!
STM317 wrote: In reply to Bobzilla: That works too. Buy it!
I'm trying.
You will want do drop it (probably 4/6" total drop), huge spring rates and huge sway bars. We like to run 1500lb front and 380lb rear springs with an 1-7/16" hollow front and a 3/4" solid rear sway bar. Get some control arms that give you around 9 of caster and -1.5 camber, and run shocks with a bunch of rebound.
If you were doing a '63-72 the easy button would be our (Hotchkis) TVS kit. We'll be working on square-bodies this year so i might be able to help more in the near future.
Nessumsar wrote: You will want do drop it (probably 4/6" total drop), huge spring rates and huge sway bars. We like to run 1500lb front and 380lb rear springs with an 1-7/16" hollow front and a 3/4" solid rear sway bar. Get some control arms that give you around 9* of caster and -1.5* camber, and run shocks with a bunch of rebound. If you were doing a '63-72 the easy button would be our (Hotchkis) TVS kit. We'll be working on square-bodies this year so i might be able to help more in the near future.
Now we're talking!
In reply to Nessumsar:
I'll tell you what... let me find a stock height 73-87 and I'll bring it down for y'all to use as a test mule!
Moar pictures!
My real soft spot is for D series/1st gen Rams, but availablity has me thinking I could be happy with a C-10.
I've been thinking hard about this one. I think the best way would be to use a variation of Doc Hess's gas cap trick: Unscrew the gas cap. Roll the C10 from underneath. Roll a Miata where the C10 used to be. Screw the gas cap back on.
You might have to get a new gas cap.
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