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Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
3/3/16 9:03 p.m.

Any ideas about this thing? (other than its a mess)

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/cto/5467615587.html

JThw8
JThw8 UltimaDork
3/3/16 9:11 p.m.

No mystery, its exactly what the ad says. A Beach MK4 sports racer, using a VW type 3 pancake motor and a custom built chassis.

edit hmm, doesn't seem they were built with VW motors so maybe not but it sure does look like one.

Would look a little like this if someone didn't hate it so much

Antihero
Antihero GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/3/16 9:17 p.m.

Didn't beck make a kit car similar to that?

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/3/16 9:55 p.m.

It's not a Beach Mk4. The Beach is mid-engine, not rear-engine, has a chine-line above the grill around to the wheelwells, and does not have scoops just forward of the rear wheelwell.

Here's the ad car:

Here is a Beach Mk 4:

I think it is whatever this contraption is, but I don't speak French:

Notice the rounded nose, rear scoops, and wider driver's compartment. Zink apparently made dozens of VW-based sports racers. It may be a Zink MK. III

http://www.racingsportscars.com/make/Zink.html

johndej
johndej Reader
3/3/16 10:07 p.m.

here's one of the zink mk3s - edit, this one may have slightly one off body work.

stroker
stroker SuperDork
3/3/16 10:25 p.m.
Gearheadotaku wrote: Any ideas about this thing? (other than its a mess) http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/cto/5467615587.html

Somebody needs to build something like that (WRX based?) for the Track Day Challenge...

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/3/16 11:15 p.m.

This is a Kellison-bodied VW pan sports racer, which supposedly started life as a clone of the EMPI Crusader nose called the Kellison VSR:

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/3/16 11:20 p.m.

The VSR had a few different bodies over the years, if it is one of those, it would be really cool and rare. Here's the only early one I've found:

Jumper K. Balls
Jumper K. Balls UberDork
3/3/16 11:22 p.m.
johndej wrote: here's one of the zink mk3s - edit, this one may have slightly one off body work.

I put a lot of work into that zink. Such a cool car. Front suspension was triumph based. Rear uprights were custom alloy castings but used triumph axles, hubs and bearings.

I think the car in the ad is indeed a beach that was hacked with VW power at some point. Look at the rear valence and you can see where it was cut away for engine clearance but still retains the bulk of the beach shape.

I also see that it is on widened Fiat wheels. I am betting it started out as a mid engined 600 based car. The 750cc sports racer class used to be popular and that drive train was not uncommon. They flipped the transaxle over to run it in a mid engined configuration.

I am also probably alone in this, but I see the beach in the ad as a viable candidate for a vintage racer restoration. Strip it, send the chassis off to be blasted and put it back to a period correct layout. I would go Fiat myself but that is just because I know them so well.

The zink required almost that much work and it wasn't hard or particularly time consuming. There isn't a lot to one of those cars. The Zink sold for about 30k without an engine. Just a Ford Kent block bolted to the Hewland gearbox.

DWNSHFT
DWNSHFT HalfDork
3/4/16 12:08 a.m.

I couldn't be sure, but is that the gas tank ahead of the front wheels?!?

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/4/16 6:38 a.m.

I'd take a $900 chance on that.

edizzle89
edizzle89 HalfDork
3/4/16 7:21 a.m.
DWNSHFT wrote: I couldn't be sure, but is that the gas tank ahead of the front wheels?!?

yes it is, gas tanks have always been known for having great crumple zone characteristics

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/4/16 7:57 a.m.
Woody wrote: I'd take a $900 chance on that.

i'd take a $400 chance on it, but of course..

fasted58
fasted58 UltimaDork
3/4/16 8:24 a.m.

Bud Bourassa's Jaco Scorpion

H Mod Jaco chassis found on http://sports.racer.net/index1.html

Similar body but not chassis, no other info

jstein77
jstein77 UltraDork
3/4/16 8:31 a.m.

If he wasn't already attempting to salvage a hopeless Lotus, this would be a good job for GRM's head honcho Tim.

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
3/4/16 8:38 a.m.

That's a pretty neat start to something amazing.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/4/16 8:43 a.m.

In reply to fasted58:

Wow, that has to be it!!!

sachilles
sachilles UltraDork
3/4/16 8:48 a.m.
jstein77 wrote: If he wasn't already attempting to salvage a hopeless Lotus, this would be a good job for GRM's head honcho Tim.

Well you always need a project in waiting.

T.J.
T.J. UltimaDork
3/4/16 8:55 a.m.

It would fit on the ramp truck nicely.

Jumper K. Balls
Jumper K. Balls UberDork
3/4/16 9:54 a.m.
Javelin wrote: In reply to fasted58: Wow, that has to be it!!!

It is Fiat based too!

Jumper K. Balls
Jumper K. Balls UberDork
3/4/16 10:03 a.m.

If this thing wasn't 2600 miles away I would have left to get it yesterday morning when it popped up in my fB feed.

fasted58
fasted58 UltimaDork
3/4/16 10:08 a.m.

Front looks pretty close too. Front duct had to been closed up but the windscreen footprint looks spot on. Rear engine hump appears to been modified to flat as seen in rear shot in previous CL pic.

Back in that day it was prolly nuttin' to swap a body out for another chassis. Wish there was more information on this. That's really sweet lookin'

SEADave
SEADave HalfDork
3/4/16 10:16 a.m.

Beach, Zink, Kellison or Jaco; for $900 asking that's a lot of potential. If I wasn't as far away as possible in the lower 48 I would be looking to pick it up, and maybe that gold Trans Am too.

Jumper K. Balls
Jumper K. Balls UberDork
3/4/16 10:31 a.m.

Here are some more pics of the Zink

Period race photo. The look we shot for

 photo car in field_zpsfwv7t5tm.png

period chassis pics

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 photo mk3-3_zpspmci1xbv.jpg

The chassis

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 photo IMG_5596_zpse4slyh4h.jpg

 photo IMG_5594_zpso9wztla4.jpg

The body was a mess when we got it. Someone cut arches into the rear clamshell and then it was repaired very poorly

 photo zink3 010 640x427_zpshvdruawk.jpg

I really think this era of sports racer has some of the most beautiful designs

 photo IMG_7053_zpsceznyzwh.jpg

 photo IMG_7032_zpsxysmngfv.jpg

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fasted58
fasted58 UltimaDork
3/4/16 10:35 a.m.

60's era, no log book mentioned but maybe number stamped roll hoop? Prolly too old to track down.

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