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m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/3/09 6:46 p.m.

I thought only the DOHC 2.5s had the bad HG problems? Doesn't Legacy/Outbacks 2000+ have the SOHC 2.5?

irish44j
irish44j Reader
12/3/09 8:35 p.m.

If only there were a Miata wagon, that would be the answer.

I hate to say it, but if he is using it for delivery, seems to me that a (gasp!) minivan would be a better choice and provide more room/carrying capacity.

Does bread really weigh that much?

Travis_K
Travis_K Dork
12/3/09 9:20 p.m.

The problem with a minivan is that the service life for most minivan automatic transmissions its about 1/4 as long as he would want to keep it, so thats why he got the subaru. The bread isnt that heavy, but its enough that a base legacy would bottom out too much on the rough california roads. I think the car may just get fixed for now, it needs about $800 in parts (clutch, motor and tranny mounts, axles, etc) then it might last another 50k miles. By then the newer legacys may have gotten cheaper. lol

cackalak
cackalak New Reader
12/3/09 9:26 p.m.

What about a Toyota Matrix? Too small? They're dead reliable and pretty useful with the hatchback.

Honda CR-V's came with a 5-sp transmission. At least the 97-01 models did. Pretty good pep with the stock 2.0L engine. Available in 4WD(AWD) if needed.

irish44j
irish44j Reader
12/3/09 10:08 p.m.

Here's one for you: Mazda5. Good handling/reliability like a 3 (especially with the 2.3L, has some decent power), but alot more interior room for hauling. Plus you can get it in a 5speed.

ddavidv
ddavidv SuperDork
12/4/09 6:16 a.m.
m4ff3w wrote: I thought only the DOHC 2.5s had the bad HG problems? Doesn't Legacy/Outbacks 2000+ have the SOHC 2.5?

Sadly, not true. Any 2.5 can suffer this malady, though after about 2002 the frequency is almost non-existent. It's the design of the original gaskets, not the engine itself that causes the problem. The sealing surface area that fails is very narrow, so a lot is asked of the HG and the original style simply couldn't cope.

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand Dork
12/8/09 8:48 p.m.
ddavidv wrote:
m4ff3w wrote: I thought only the DOHC 2.5s had the bad HG problems? Doesn't Legacy/Outbacks 2000+ have the SOHC 2.5?
Sadly, not true. Any 2.5 can suffer this malady, though after about 2002 the frequency is almost non-existent. It's the design of the original gaskets, not the engine itself that causes the problem. The sealing surface area that fails is very narrow, so a lot is asked of the HG and the original style simply couldn't cope.

The gaskets in my wife's car (99 Outback - DOHC 2.5) were replaced by dealer at 155k, in 2006. So they should last?

fornetti14
fornetti14 GRM+ Memberand Reader
12/8/09 9:13 p.m.

^^^ Yes, but do the coolant exchange on time and use the Subaru green $33/gal coolant.

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