This is from a company up the road a bit. Not a very good article, no pics of the body, but an interesting idea. I'm sure Exxon will buy the tech and store it in the same warehouse as the Fish carb.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/fl-energy-car-20110516,0,4201099.story
Looks pretty cool. I can't get the video to work properly though. I'll have to try it again at home.
I had a Fish carb. It worked. Nothing spectacular. Too finiky to adjust. I didn't sell it to Exxon. I don't know what happened to it after I gave it to a friend to try on his stock car.
I hope it works.....not like the stanley steamer at the start of this video
http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/1925-doble-series-e-steam-car/213453/
huh.
Not much to hide in a warehouse. I wish them well, but IMHO, the technology isn't game changing, or all that impressive...
Based on their target, that engine doesn't make much power. We can do 165mph in an Alfa Spider body, with external cage. This is narrower, and longer- should be capable of 200mph with a decent engine. 160 should be easy with that body.
To give you a reference- the 1.0 l normally aspirated gasoline record is 229 mph, and the 500cc N/A record is 202mph- all for a streamliner body like that one. I would hope the engine is better than a 500cc engine.
Current record holder - www.steamcar.co.uk
monark192 wrote:
Something is wrong with this picture.
The above claims a flying mile of 138 and change and kilometer over 145....
But SCTA-BNI has a record of 145.6mph. That's over a mile. Back in 1985.
steamcar also claims over 300hp. Should EASILLY clear 200mph with 300hp and that body shape.
138mph with over 300hp seems pretty slow compared to +200mph out of a normally aspirated, gas powered 500cc motor....
Does not compute.
weight?
Their aero work seems a might strange, they have two rearward facing flat surfaces. Something on the dorsal part and the actual end of the vehicle. I have only done limited aero, but flat butts suck, literally. The vertical stabilizers/tail fins seem out of place, having trouble seeing an purpose to them that would outweigh their drag.
Hey, I thought this was about a Suzuki Esteem.
Never miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind...
shadetree30 wrote: Hey, I thought this was about a Suzuki Esteem. Never miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind...
And you liked that idea? You'll fit in here nicely. 
Timeormoney wrote: Their aero work seems a might strange, they have two rearward facing flat surfaces. Something on the dorsal part and the actual end of the vehicle. I have only done limited aero, but flat butts suck, literally. The vertical stabilizers/tail fins seem out of place, having trouble seeing an purpose to them that would outweigh their drag.
It appears the upper part is not a solid wall but a large exhaust, and the lower flat surface has a large steam vent firing into it:
So in both cases, the airflow is probably completely separated from the body at those points.
MadScientistMatt wrote: So in both cases, the airflow is probably completely separated from the body at those points.
realistically, the speeds they are reporting- that odd rear treatment isn't what is holding them back.
If a 500cc gas motor can do 200mph, that implies something. Not in a good way for the steam engines.
In reply to alfadriver:
I'll bet they are not measuring crankshaft output horsepower. Methinks some effort like this is probably converting the heat energy of some step in the system to HP units giving a grossly exaggerated figure.
For a frame of reference: I found a firetube boiler rated at 300 hp and this specific unit is 243" long x 102" tall x 94" wide and weighs 18,540 lbs (dry) and the normal water weight is 12,190 lbs on top of that.
tuna55 wrote: In reply to alfadriver: I'll bet they are not measuring crankshaft output horsepower. Methinks some effort like this is probably converting the heat energy of some step in the system to HP units giving a grossly exaggerated figure.
Too bad for them that people who drive cars and demand power need the output shaft power.... 
RossD wrote: For a frame of reference: I found a firetube boiler rated at 300 hp and this specific unit is 243" long x 102" tall x 94" wide and weighs 18,540 lbs (dry) and the normal water weight is 12,190 lbs on top of that.
HA!
alfadriver wrote:tuna55 wrote: In reply to alfadriver: I'll bet they are not measuring crankshaft output horsepower. Methinks some effort like this is probably converting the heat energy of some step in the system to HP units giving a grossly exaggerated figure.Too bad for them that people who drive cars and demand power need the output shaft power....
We'll start rating our cars in terms of the total energy available in the fuel. My Freestyle makes something like 1015 HP!
Oops my example is flawed. 1 boiler horsepower is equal to 9.8 kW not 746 Watts like a normal horsepower.
RossD wrote: Oops my example is flawed. 1 boiler horsepower is equal to 9.8 kW not 746 Watts like a normal horsepower.
Wierd- the only conversion I can find that's using a 9.8 in energy/power conversion is going from a Poncelet to watts. Poncelet is a unique french measurement of power.
How that factors into this- no idea even if it does....
But: 1 kp*m/s = 9.8 Watts. The Bosch Book clearly says " Do Not Use" before this conversion. 
Crazy French. Come up with a good standard of measurements, and then go and deviate from that, even....
Yeah, I found the definition on wikipedia and it says it's only used in the USA and is antiquated. But the 300 hp rating was on the manufacturers website.
JoeyM wrote:shadetree30 wrote: Hey, I thought this was about a Suzuki Esteem. Never miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind...And you liked that idea? You'll fit in here nicely.
I thought it was going to be about a steam powered record player like this:
T.J. wrote:JoeyM wrote:I thought it was going to be about a steam powered record player like this:shadetree30 wrote: Hey, I thought this was about a Suzuki Esteem. Never miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind...And you liked that idea? You'll fit in here nicely.
Or even the Lear steam Indy car from 1969 or therebouts...
To my original point, anybody ever prank a parts store asking for a firebox liner for a Suzuki Esteem? Didn't think so...
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