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gamby
gamby SuperDork
11/1/11 11:23 p.m.

http://www.fiatusa.com/abarth

Not that I'm buying one, but it would be way atop my list if I were in the market for a new car. The Fit Sport would be more efficient, practical and reliable, but that Abarth looks fantastic.

I hope it comes here close to Euro spec with the nice low ride height from the factory and the wheels that were on Hammond's car when he drove the Abarth cabrio on TGUK.

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
11/1/11 11:27 p.m.

14 days, 14 hour, 9 minutes

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
11/1/11 11:39 p.m.

My wife has wanted one since we sat in the regular 500 at the state fair.

gamby
gamby SuperDork
11/1/11 11:48 p.m.

In reply to carguy123:

Is that the US version???

If so, DAMN. I'd be SERIOUSLY tempted to ditch my 99 Si for that one in a couple of years when they depreciate.

I'll be curious to see how they do reliability/durability-wise. I'm NUTS about the styling.

MitchellC
MitchellC Dork
11/2/11 12:10 a.m.

Fiat Abarth, FT-86, Focus ST, 300 HP V6 Mustang... Yes, they weigh a bit more, but honestly, it's not such a bad time to be into cars.

The0retical
The0retical New Reader
11/2/11 3:42 a.m.
MitchellC wrote: Fiat Abarth, FT-86, Focus ST, 300 HP V6 Mustang... Yes, they weigh a bit more, but honestly, it's not such a bad time to be into cars.

Good thing too I was just thinking about how unexciting pretty much everything not made by Mazda under 30k is now.

HiTempguy
HiTempguy Dork
11/2/11 11:09 a.m.

I will buy one of these next year as a DD dependent on TWO THINGS: if I can get the Abarth version stripped with no options besides cruise, power windows, and power locks (A/C is probably standard, so whatever)

AND

If the MPG stays reasonable.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2012-fiat-500-sport-long-term-test-review-car-and-driver

Currently, their test car is doing better than a Mazda 2 (and I love the looks of the Fiat a lot more than the Mazda). Considering I'll be 24 next year and my insurance rates will have nose dived for full coverage, I am dead serious about this car

Derick Freese
Derick Freese Dork
11/2/11 11:31 a.m.

If we were in a position to buy, we'd be first in line at the dealership.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo SuperDork
11/2/11 11:41 a.m.
MitchellC wrote: Fiat Abarth, FT-86, Focus ST, 300 HP V6 Mustang... Yes, they weigh a bit more, but honestly, it's not such a bad time to be into cars.

I'd take the 5.0 when it comes to the mustang, but I'm all about what is stated here.

Gearheadotaku
Gearheadotaku GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/2/11 11:46 a.m.

All I saw was a few pictures and and a bunch of marketing BS. Not one solid technical number.

kreb
kreb GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/2/11 11:53 a.m.
Gearheadotaku wrote: All I saw was a few pictures and and a bunch of marketing BS. Not one solid technical number.

X2. All blow and no go. I'm sure that'll change, but they missed an opportunity to show that they're serious.

ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/2/11 11:57 a.m.

In reply to Gearheadotaku:

Layers and layers of marketing... No data, but it's close to here, so all technical data is etched in stone and available to them for release.

We all realize at this point that the marketeers make a conscious decision to release or not release data, so the question is: why not? Are they afraid the numbers will be disappointing? Are they actually disappointing, or only in the context of this "bad boy" campaign they seem to have decided on, which seems a strange choice for anything 500-based...

Makes me sigh and wonder what the next layer of marketing is, or whether this discussion of why they haven't released data is part of the current calculated marketing plan.

Groan.

Derick Freese
Derick Freese Dork
11/2/11 12:39 p.m.

5.0 is already in the Mustang. I've stopped and window peeked one at the local dealership. Price makes me want to wait for depreciation to make a dent in values before I bother with them.

SnowMongoose
SnowMongoose New Reader
11/2/11 1:40 p.m.

Will be taking a look at one of these in five years, or when I land a classroom... whichever happens first.

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Web Manager
11/2/11 2:23 p.m.
HiTempguy wrote: Currently, their test car is doing better than a Mazda 2 (and I love the looks of the Fiat a lot more than the Mazda). Considering I'll be 24 next year and my insurance rates will have nose dived for full coverage, I am dead serious about this car

I don't blame you for picking the Fiat, but I've had WAY better results from my Mazda2 than C/D is reporting. I'm beating their Fiat results by 3 or 4 mpg.

I'd very much like to see some other manufacturers put something spicy in the B-segment market. Mazdaspeed2, Fit/CR-Z type R, SVT Fiesta, bring them all out!

rob_lewis
rob_lewis Dork
11/2/11 2:28 p.m.

From what I understand, they're unveiling in on the 15th, but dealers won't get them until March or April. Supposedly, each dealer gets 100. Given the small allotment, most will probably be loaded. However, if you're on the list (I'm 34th for Austin), you may be able to choose exactly what you want. My wife was able to on her convertible.

Rumor is, the US version will have more power than the European SS version. Over 160 h.p. would be a blast.

-Rob

pete240z
pete240z SuperDork
11/2/11 2:48 p.m.

For living in such a large market as Chicago; I rarely see any on the highway or local streets. I believe I saw one back a few months.

Where are all these Fiat's at?

Capt Slow
Capt Slow Dork
11/2/11 3:20 p.m.

I see fiats all the time, but then again I see tesla's all the time too.

I guess the Bay Area is a bit weird.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/2/11 3:25 p.m.

It will be way overpriced, and I really don't like the look of it. For the $35,000 they are going to ask, I'll stick with an STi or Evo or MS3 or GTi or....

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
11/2/11 3:38 p.m.
pinchvalve wrote: It will be way overpriced, and I really don't like the look of it. For the $35,000 they are going to ask, I'll stick with an STi or Evo or MS3 or GTi or....

How do you figure that? The MSRP for the normal one starts at $15,500 which is less then the MINI. How do you figure the hot version of the Fiat is going to cost more the the hot version of the MINI?

Hungary Bill
Hungary Bill GRM+ Memberand New Reader
11/2/11 4:00 p.m.
carguy123 wrote: My wife has wanted one since we sat in the regular 500 at the state fair.

In the future, please add a "work warning" to pictures like this.

Goodness! -Bill

RexSeven
RexSeven SuperDork
11/2/11 4:37 p.m.

If I hadn't decided my next car will be RWD, then the Fiat 500 Abarth would have been high on my list of choices. I still plan on test-driving it (and the Ford Focus ST) in about 1-2 years time. Looks like fun!

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
11/2/11 4:55 p.m.
Derick Freese wrote: 5.0 is already in the Mustang. I've stopped and window peeked one at the local dealership. Price makes me want to wait for depreciation to make a dent in values before I bother with them.

For quite a bit less than the price of a 5.0 you can get a fully loaded STI.

njansenv
njansenv HalfDork
11/2/11 4:55 p.m.

I'll bet you lunch that they're well over 30k here in Canada by the time they are out the door. A Fiat 500c here is out the door for $28k. A 500 sport is $24k out the door. That's a bit of change.

93EXCivic wrote:
pinchvalve wrote: It will be way overpriced, and I really don't like the look of it. For the $35,000 they are going to ask, I'll stick with an STi or Evo or MS3 or GTi or....
How do you figure that? The MSRP for the normal one starts at $15,500 which is less then the MINI. How do you figure the hot version of the Fiat is going to cost more the the hot version of the MINI?
carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
11/2/11 4:56 p.m.

For those of you who haven't shopped a Fiat be aware they are very much into you ordering exactly what you want. The list of exterior and interior colors and fabrics harkens back to the 60's. They have multiple choices in everything down to the wheels you want.

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