The most anti-GRM car you could imagine

I would totally race that.

Just don't take it on any hill climbs

The Dartz Prombron Monaco Red Diamond Edition SUV.

Because seats of 'real whale penis leather' is decidedly anti-grassroots.

yamaha wrote: In reply to GameboyRMH: I presume they all have speakers on them to mimic exhaust noises? The shrill "White Noise" their motors make is definitely not a soul.

There is motor controller whine on hybrids and electrics. I find it comforting.

yamaha wrote: In reply to GameboyRMH: I presume they all have speakers on them to mimic exhaust noises? The shrill "White Noise" their motors make is definitely not a soul.

None of those have fake noises. They all have mean gear whine though. Here's how a Formula E sounds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTKqeL_UTqI

I never considered soul to be synonymous with sound.

Sound is the soul of soul.

Why the hate for the Google car? Your not being forced to drive it, but I would rather share the road with that than the stereotypical latte, texting, commuter behind the wheel of a giant unneeded truck.

neon4891 wrote: Why the hate for the Google car? Your not being forced to drive it, but I would rather share the road with that than the stereotypical latte, texting, commuter behind the wheel of a giant unneeded truck.

The hate isn't for the car itself, but the fact that it is a harbinger of things to come. Soon, we'll have roads with designated "automated" car lanes, leaving less space for us troglodytes who want to drive ourselves. Fewer and fewer models of cars that you can actually drive will be available, (like manual transmissions these days) and driving will become less and less a part of our culture. The Google car is the ultimate appliance- taking all of the skill, fun, and thrill out of the driving experience. It's the death-knell of the automobile as we know it--- that's why I hate it.

Get off my lawn!!!

Joe Gearin wrote:

neon4891 wrote: Why the hate for the Google car? Your not being forced to drive it, but I would rather share the road with that than the stereotypical latte, texting, commuter behind the wheel of a giant unneeded truck.

The hate isn't for the car itself, but the fact that it is a harbinger of things to come. Soon, we'll have roads with designated "automated" car lanes, leaving less space for us troglodytes who want to drive ourselves. Fewer and fewer models of cars that you can actually drive will be available, (like manual transmissions these days) and driving will become less and less a part of our culture. The Google car is the ultimate appliance- taking all of the skill, fun, and thrill out of the driving experience. It's the death-knell of the automobile as we know it--- that's why I hate it. Get off my lawn!!!

here, here.... neighbor

In reply to GameboyRMH:

That might be why you cannot grasp this. The sounds internal combustion engines emit is part of their soul, almost all of them are different. Even among others like it, they can still sound different. Electrics don't have this really, the shrill whine is pretty much flat, cold, and unwelcoming.

Back on track, I would vote for a loaded fwd Malibu being un -grm

Based on another thread, the land rover freelander.

yamaha wrote: In reply to GameboyRMH: That might be why you cannot grasp this. The sounds internal combustion engines emit is part of their soul, almost all of them are different. Even among others like it, they can still sound different. Electrics don't have this really, the shrill whine is pretty much flat, cold, and unwelcoming.

Unless its direct drive, there will still be drivetrain whine. There will be variants in drivetrains. I've run the throttle on Harley's prototype "Livewire" bike. Do the same and tell me that that bike has no soul. Its just different music. Tune your ears.

There's no such thing as a non GRM vehicle...just non GRM people yet to be converted

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With a towing capacity of 3500 lbs, even an Aztek can be of some value to a GRM'er.

NordicSaab wrote: tuk tuk

I just pictured the hilarity that a one make series of these trading paint and tipping over around a racetrack would be.

Been done by GRM and is all played out...

I know you guys are trying to forget that. But we don't want history to repeat itself.