Think I just found my next car

FRS turbo kit

In 5 years when I'll be ready to replace the Sentra, these cars should be right in my price range. Add turbo, stir, enter in SM, enjoy.

I wonder how much the kit will cost? Your plan sounds like a winner

This might not be the best kit

The turbo is VERY close to the ground, I hope they try to find a new home for this.

Looks like an angle thing, i doubt it's lower than the trans.

In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac:

Look at that oil line, its below the tans and curved up. Angle makes it look worse, but its definitely pretty darn low.

I would never install a turbo kit that placed the turbocharger that low to the ground, unless the only driving it was doing was out of the trailer and onto the floor of the DUB show and back.

Definitely lower than the trans but I don't think it's lower than the subframe. Far from ideal placement but I don't think it's in much danger from bottoming out. A 4-point subframe brace would protect it.

BTW, you know the BRZ STi is coming out, right?

Im trying to picture salty snow slush bombarding that thing on a regular basis. It is not a good picture.

Also, at over 6k for the basic kit, cost to ship, install, and tune, I am going to end up with close to 10k in expense.I don't think so.

I know that the world whines on about the Twins not having enough power to get out of the driveway, but there is a longer list that I would invest in beofre lack of power became my focus.

Anyone making a decent transmission for this car yet? The 6 speed that comes with it is an advert for the automatic.

Can we talk tires? Seriously, the ones that come on this car remind me of tray drifting videos, only you dont need the trays! Easy fix for about 1k.

The computer could serioulsly use a re-personality; it trips like a drunk over a curb at around 3000 rpm. VERY instrusive traction control, hard to make any journey without it anouncing itself.

I feel that the thing needs a lower rear gear, the car lives on the rev limiter. Certainly a 3 gear car on a tight autocross course where others will only need 2 and since second is such a non-participant, not a good thing if this is your sport.MAYBE if it had a longer rear gear I would be clamoring for more torque to balance it out.

I think there will be better FI options out there...

Turbo List: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16360

Supercharger List: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16888

My favorite (so far): http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20441

Treadstone's kit is much nicer:

That's good to hear. I'm kind of partial to Treadstone since it's in my current daily driver.

This should be fun.

A bunch of interestingly 'engineered' turbo kits fighting it out on forums promoted by a bunch of anonymous people.

The more time you post about a product the better it must be, right? Or is it judged by how shiny and blinging the part is?

jstein77 wrote: FRS turbo kit In 5 years when I'll be ready to replace the Sentra, these cars should be right in my price range. Add turbo, stir, enter in SM, enjoy.

If the plan is for autocrossing an FR-S I'd skip turbo and go with supercharger....power right off the line and in the rpms you need. This ones in development and if it becomes reality and sells for the estimated $3500 for the base kit without intercooler or ~$4700 for the intercooled kit it would be a nice deal.

A stock FR-S makes a much better track car than autocrosser; remap the power delivery and rev limiter and that might change though....

I hate the low mount turbos. They just don't seem practical for a car driven on the street. They're just too exposed to debris, salt, water, etc. What happens when the turbo is nice and hot and you hit a puddle?

Kenny_McCormic wrote: In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac: Look at that oil line, its below the tans and curved up. Angle makes it look worse, but its definitely pretty darn low.

I don't think it's curved up, either... looks to be running parallel to the subframe/crossmember thing.

Anyways, i'll take my turbo Toyobaru in Accelerated Performance guise, please and thank you!

http://youtu.be/aBdFiFOWGms

They've since made 460whp out of the stock motor.

Strike that... one of their customer cars made 541whp on a stock motor.

Vracer111 wrote:

jstein77 wrote: FRS turbo kit In 5 years when I'll be ready to replace the Sentra, these cars should be right in my price range. Add turbo, stir, enter in SM, enjoy.

If the plan is for autocrossing an FR-S I'd skip turbo and go with supercharger....power right off the line and in the rpms you need. A stock FR-S makes a much better track car than autocrosser; remap the power delivery and rev limiter and that might change though....

+1

This is the most appealing choice I've seen so far for the Frizbee twins. Judging by how many Frizbees were at SEMA--- there will be plenty more choices to come!

This is a good thing!

amg_rx7 wrote: This should be fun. A bunch of interestingly 'engineered' turbo kits fighting it out on forums promoted by a bunch of anonymous people. The more time you post about a product the better it must be, right? Or is it judged by how shiny and blinging the part is?

I don't know about any of the other kits, but the Treadstone kit in my Sentra just flat out works. I've owned it for over a year now, and it's perfectly reliable for daily driver use and just rocks at the autocrosses. A flat torque curve from 3000 to 6500, never dropping below 250 ft-lbs at the wheels, makes for some very strong acceleration off of the corners. The engineering done on this kit was outstanding.

Vracer111 wrote:

jstein77 wrote: FRS turbo kit In 5 years when I'll be ready to replace the Sentra, these cars should be right in my price range. Add turbo, stir, enter in SM, enjoy.

If the plan is for autocrossing an FR-S I'd skip turbo and go with supercharger....power right off the line and in the rpms you need. This ones in development and if it becomes reality and sells for the estimated $3500 for the base kit without intercooler or ~$4700 for the intercooled kit it would be a nice deal. A stock FR-S makes a much better track car than autocrosser; remap the power delivery and rev limiter and that might change though....

Ooooo. Pretty...

dculberson wrote: I hate the low mount turbos. They just don't seem practical for a car driven on the street. They're just too exposed to debris, salt, water, etc. What happens when the turbo is nice and hot and you hit a puddle?

Steam happens.

The turbo on my daily driver gets hit with water all the time. It's fine.

Im with Ben on this.

There is such a thing as building a skidplate if you're THAT worried. But i know noone here is THAT worried because generally 95% of naysayers on the internet spend all their time naysaying and none actually building stuff to be concerned about breaking with water.

There is a big difference between people who are worrying about that turbo placement and people who put the work/time/money in and make 540whp on a high compression n/a motor with paper-thin ringlands within months of purchase. Do'ers and dont'ers, talk vs walk, etc.

Definitely lower than the trans but I don't think it's lower than the subframe

Correct.

Still awfully close to that transmission.

How many laps before you could fry a turkey in the trans oil?

Is that the discharge oil line going over to an oil pump? AFAIK, that creamy whipped oil doen't like to flow uphill.

mine hangs low sometimes

plance1 wrote: mine hangs low sometimes

Look out for puddles and salt.