quipster
quipster
2/15/23 9:08 a.m.

I've been thinking about getting a BMW i8 lately as a daily driver. I don't drive often so my commute is like 30-40 miles round trip usually every other day. I have rented out the i8 a couple times already and I love it. It fits in the garage and I'm able to get in and out of it comfortably.

Currently looking at some older years like 2014-16 and with a budget of around $60k. However, I'm a little bit concerned about the long term ownership of one of these because I don't think there would be any warranty that comes with it. How reliable are they and am I able to DIY some of the repairs? Also, around how expensive would the repairs itself be including labor and everything? I've mostly heard things about the battery dying out, windshield randomly cracking, coolant issues and the gas tank not opening but I'm not sure how often those things would actually happen.

calteg
calteg SuperDork
2/15/23 2:52 p.m.

Sir, this is Grassroots Motorsports. Lop a 0 off that purchase price and it's still too expensive for most of us. 

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/15/23 3:26 p.m.

I have often wondered what maintenance is like for them.  With the explosion in 996/997 911 prices there is now overlap between the cheapest i8's and 911's.   Function and performance wise they seem to be similar.   The i8 is definitely more exotic though.  

All I know about them is they look amazing and I would enjoy experiencing one from the drivers seat sometime.

 

nderwater
nderwater UltimaDork
2/15/23 3:30 p.m.

I remember watching all Samcrac's i8 videos on youtube and thinking that i would NEVER EVER be tempted by one of those things.  YMMV.

Sonic
Sonic UberDork
2/15/23 3:43 p.m.

Someone here had one.  I don't know how to spell his user name, starts with a K.   

Matt B (fs)
Matt B (fs) UltraDork
2/15/23 4:11 p.m.

In reply to nderwater :

So uh, what happened in those videos?

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 PowerDork
2/15/23 4:21 p.m.

Didn't YouTubers and clout chasers buy up most of these and subsequently thrash them? 

I worked with a guy that had one in California. He moved out there, bought the car while the company paid for 2 months of hotels as part of a relocation expense, and quickly realized he couldn't afford housing and the i8 in SoCal at the same time. He didn't want to let the car go and was living out of it for a while, never took it in for any kind of maintenance, and finally let the bank repo it. 

best of luck in your search, I have no other experience with them other than that anecdote. 

yupididit
yupididit UltimaDork
2/15/23 4:48 p.m.

I'm Youtube land every car is a POS. There's someone in the forum (Karacticus) that's had one for a couple years. Maybe he'll chime in. 

Mndsm
Mndsm MegaDork
2/15/23 4:56 p.m.

I looked at them once as well. The general consensus was...

 

 

No berkeleying way. 

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/15/23 4:58 p.m.

As someone who is not tech-phobic or EV-phobic, I'd still be a bit worried about the long-term repairability of these. The first thing to check into are what electronic diagnostic & maintenance tools are required to work on the EV components in the car - look for people DIY'ing pack swaps or inverter/controller replacements. If nobody can do those...not a long-term car.

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/15/23 6:03 p.m.

I know nothing about them, except that I see them occasionally and always like how they look. 

Karacticus
Karacticus GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/15/23 6:33 p.m.

I had one, will provide more info later tonight. 
 

Karacticus
Karacticus GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/15/23 7:21 p.m.

I owned the 2015 pictured above from around 17,000 miles to roughly 31,000 miles.  The only troubles I had with it during that time was a slight gear oil leak around at one of the front axle outputs, one of the electronically controlled dampers leaking and all of the shock boots degrading to dust.  I had the same output seal leak on my i3, which used essentially the same drive train, and the boots appear to be a common problem on BMWs of that vintage.

Oh, I did have one of the brake bleeder nipples for a front caliper back off while tracking the car at Road America.  That was my fault though.

The car was always a occasion to drive-- looked awesome inside and out.  It always felt like the future, though maybe it was the future circa 2010.  Performance, while not Tesla Plaid level, was effortlessly available to well in excess of the legal limits.  In sport mode, it would make awesome noises, during full throttle redline upshifts.   That those noises mostly played through the interior speakers didn't make them sound any less awesome.

The interior itself is very comfortable for the front seat passengers, but the back seats are only suitable for decapitated double amputees.  Ease of entry isn't as bad as made out to be on the internet, as you're working with gravity.  Exit up and out across the very wide sill isn't something you're going to get done gracefully.  I damn near ruined myself hopping in and out of the driver's seat past a cabled up OBD connection while trying to do a computer assisted solo brake bleed at all four corners.

Cargo area in the rear is the size/shape of something like a couple of cases of beer, and gets pretty warm.

The gas struts for the doors are consumables-- need to be replaced every 2-3 years.  Easy DIY and the parts are a couple of hundred dollars.  The plastic plunger assembly that pops the rear hatch also tends to crack/break, and can leave you unable to open the hatch.  Also an easy DIY replacement, and I recall the parts being less than $50.

I found parts support to be very good-- as it's pre-2019, all of the parts information is available at www.realoem.com.  I've also saved a lot of tech and service information I downloaded, and I can share if you contact me via PM. 

Periodic maintenance like air filter, spark plugs, oil, oil filter, brakes are quite straightforward, though the reach to the engine bay is a little long.  You can probably pick up an oil filter (and the corresponding wrench) at a BMW motorcycle service center!

I never got around to doing a coolant change.  The internet says it's impossible, but it's pretty clearly laid out in the service information as requiring a vacuum filling tool.

Service procedures are available for download at a cost of $30/24 hr from BMW.  If you're ambitious, that access even allows you to download the ISTA computer service tool, though bootleg versions are available as well.

If you need dealer service/support, that can be more problematic-- the closest dealer that would touch it was 2 hours away.  It's kind of like trying to find a dealer that will support one of the V-10 M cars.

What ended up as one of the bigger deals to me though is that the tire choice on the OEM wheels is extremely limited.  Some pretty odd sizes-- 215/45 R20 in front and 245/40 R20 in the rear.  At the time, you had the choice of the OEM Bridgestones, which were always out of stock, or Pirellis.  Both were summer only tires, and the Pirellis weren't even supposed to be stored below 37 degrees F.  It looks like you can get Michelins now though-- while I owned the car, you could get the rear size, but would have to import the fronts.  None of the options are inexpensive.  I think there's a wider choice available in snow tires.

I'll admit I was always a bit fearful I'd run into some kind of maintenance issue, but I definitely miss the driving experience and the attention it would get.  It should also be noted that collision coverage on a carbon fiber car runs kind of high.  Depending on your state, plates for a car with an MSRP of nearly $150K can also be rather dear.

In the end, I traded it for a 2022 Supra as being better suited for occasional track days.  In the weird 2022 auto market, the trade in value was nearly what I paid for it when purchased as a CPO.

 

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
2/15/23 7:32 p.m.

I sat in one once. It was monumentally difficult to get in and out of. 
 

The seat is over 6" lower than the door sill. 
 

I'd be scared that videos of me trying to get out of the car would go viral on YouTube. 

Karacticus
Karacticus GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/15/23 7:47 p.m.
SV reX said:

I sat in one once. It was monumentally difficult to get in and out of. 
 

The seat is over 6" lower than the door sill. 
 

I'd be scared that videos of me trying to get out of the car would go viral on YouTube. 

Try wearing something other than your mini-dress cheeky

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/15/23 8:03 p.m.

I find that i8 interesting enough that I'd be willing to take the risk. I have very little interest in having something like an Lambo or Ferrari in my garage, but an i8 would be welcome.

Karacticus
Karacticus GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/15/23 8:03 p.m.

And yeah, that door sill was lots of fun to be draped over with my head in the passenger footwell changing out the cabin air filter. 

Karacticus
Karacticus GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/15/23 8:24 p.m.

Also, while more than likely that crowd has moved on to something else, you may also have to deal with public disappointment that the car isn't being driven by a celebrity DJ.  

quipster
quipster New Reader
2/15/23 9:30 p.m.

Wow, thanks for all the info! In terms of practicality, I'm ok with the doors since I'm used to getting in and out of them after renting it out a couple weekends and also not too worried about the storage space either. It looks like I won't be able to get one that's CPO unfortunately since it's usually 2019+ models and it's like $85k+ which is out of my budget range. Would I still be able to get some type of warranty if I went with a 2014-16 model? And also should I be concerned about high mileage on these when buying? Definitely going to get a pre-purchase inspection for sure.

Karacticus
Karacticus GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/15/23 10:08 p.m.

Can't help you on the warranty question.

High mileage may not be much to worry about depending on condition and good maintenance records. 

calteg
calteg SuperDork
2/16/23 10:18 a.m.

According to Hagerty, the I8 is now appreciating, so this might be the cheapest "the dip"

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
2/16/23 10:23 a.m.

I seem to remember another semi-regular on this forum has one - in the more common white, IIRC.  

I don't see them very often but I remember commuting past a BMW dealer that had one in the showroom for quite awhile.  They look neat, but I don't know if I would chose one over other super(ish) cars at a similar price-point.

Karacticus
Karacticus GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/16/23 2:10 p.m.

Two other things-- 

  1. it parks like a very large car, because it is a very wide car. The surround view camera system approaches being a necessity. 
     
  2. Entertainment/phone interface is rather dated, just like any other 2015 vintage car
GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE SuperDork
2/16/23 2:40 p.m.

I know Rich Rebuilds had one and documented fixing it from IAAI. He had to replace an air strut that cost a grand and a half and many dealerships refused to support or work with it.

They do look like FUTURE tho. One of my docs has one and the damn thing looks like a spaceship.

Karacticus
Karacticus GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/16/23 4:53 p.m.

A few more photos that might be interesting --

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