Keith Tanner wrote: So, why are long travel pre-runner style trucks always 2wd?
Better front suspension with IFS, and long travel CV's are very spendy and 4x4 adds a lot of complexity and weight. The desert guys make up for the 4x4 traction with momentum.
However, I desperately want the total chaos LT kit for my truck.... Its rides amazing....
java230 wrote:Keith Tanner wrote: So, why are long travel pre-runner style trucks always 2wd?Better front suspension with IFS, and long travel CV's are very spendy and 4x4 adds a lot of complexity and weight. The desert guys make up for the 4x4 traction with momentum. However, I desperately want the total chaos LT kit for my truck.... Its rides amazing....
ive always understood the problem with long travel 4wd's to be the CV's in IFS not liking the extreme angles and solid front axles being really heavy to try to control over high speed bumps. but there are a few companies like Dixon Bros that make long travel for IFS 4wd trucks, but none of what they make is what i would call 'budget friendly'
but damn it if they dont make good looking trucks
In reply to edizzle89:
Looks like the front end is 2' wider than the rear
In reply to edizzle89:
Yes exactly, CV's limit the travel a bit, and solid=suck for fast bumps and LT.
4x4, 13" of wheel travel... Yes please! But yeah not budget friendly.
java230 wrote: In reply to edizzle89: Yes exactly, CV's limit the travel a bit, and solid=suck for fast bumps and LT.
Solid sucks for fast bumps but it's no hindrance to long travel.
In reply to GameboyRMH:
Yes sorry I wasn't clear fast moving LT
DaveEstey wrote: In reply to edizzle89: Looks like the front end is 2' wider than the rear
pretty much any long travel will give the front a wider track width, since longer control arms = more travel with less angle
What kind of travel numbers are you looking for?
In reply to icaneat50eggs:
For me, this.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UwG9znEqsG0
Love the way it lifts the tire, it would also make the roads around here feel like glass.
edizzle89 wrote:Dusterbd13 wrote: g body donktastic lift partsi've looked into donk lifts to try to make a long travel car and i would not recommend... all they are good for is physically lifting the vehicle with little to no engineering put into them that i wouldnt even want to go over a speed bump with let alone anything offroad
ball joint spacers, spring spacers, whatever is going on with that 'steering plate'? its hard to look at...
That looks.....terrifying. Side load might pop those springs off.....
That maroon ranger.. Hmmmmmmmm
The biggest thing I'm getting from this tread is suddenly realizing where that reverse stink bug trend with the truck guys comes from.
In the case of my old Toyota, it was because it has a torsion bar front suspension. You can lift it by simply turning a bolt. Not so much in the rear 
So I've lowered an offroad Toyota truck (I couldn't leave it that way) and lifted a CRX. I'm not sure I have this modified thing figured out.
How the hell did that kid in the Off Road Bug get away with that? He should have been shot.
I thought Pre-Runners were 2wd because of the rules of the Baja. Teams were allowed to pre-run the course in a 2wd vehicle. Those vehicles evolved into huge travel, 2wd, race trucks.
How budget can this be done? I can you get something with 24 inches of travel for 10k? I don't know anything but i doubt it
NOHOME wrote: How the hell did that kid in the Off Road Bug get away with that? He should have been shot.
29 misdemeanors, like a huge 5 figure fine and 40 days in the clink. Could have been worse.
24 inches of travel is alot without going to a tube chassis home-made thing. you can find used kits for cheap-ish but decent front coilovers and shocks (if you keep the leafs in the rear) are still a big cost. like i posted on page 1, the cheapest, bang for buck option in my opinion would be the E-150 i-beams under a Ranger
icaneat50eggs wrote: How budget can this be done? I can you get something with 24 inches of travel for 10k? I don't know anything but i doubt it
24 inches is a ton of travel. You might get 18" of travel though.
Cheap 2wd Ranger: $1-2k
Camburg Front long travel kit: $3800 (18 inches of travel)
Deaver Leaf Springs: $700 ( 2.5" lift, plus softer spring rates for improved ride)
Tires: $1500
Duraflex bulged fenders: $350/pair to keep from destroying the body.
Stock "pulled" bedsides: Free
That leaves $1500-1800 for shocks.
That's a fairly conservative estimate, using some pricey, off-the-shelf gear but for a GRMer that can find some deals, and do some work themselves it's definitely doable.
lrrs wrote: In reply to icaneat50eggs: For me, this. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UwG9znEqsG0 Love the way it lifts the tire, it would also make the roads around here feel like glass.
If all you want is to lift a tire like that, any short arm 4 link Jeep (TJ, XJ, etc.) will do that, even more so if you've got a locker in the rear diff. It's not a feature I particularly enjoy, dang near flopped my Jeep on it's side shortly after installing my locker, just shooting a gap in traffic to turn into a parking lot.
As noted Ranger is the platform to go with. If looking to do a car instead, as opposed to a compact truck, then Volvo 240 is the best option.
GTwannaB wrote: Forester springs on an Impreza?
This can be the easy button.
You want all the gear off a Forester - suspension, subframe spacers, 97-99 Outback trailing arm brackets, or adjustable trailing arms. Add bigger tires and King lift springs and go like hell.
Please note that many people don't check this - a regular Impreza front strut has 6.5" travel and the forester only has 4.5". You are actually better off using the Impreza struts if you can. The Forester struts have longer bodies however.
Bumping this for a good reason, I just came across these pictures. Apply Jeepspeed awesomeness to an MJ. 
I want one of those rangers now. Nowhere to drive it but damn it looks cool.
captdownshift wrote: As noted Ranger is the platform to go with. If looking to do a car instead, as opposed to a compact truck, then Volvo 240 is the best option.
http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=319216
Its for sale too.
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