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Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
8/27/19 1:57 p.m.

 

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Tires are better than they’ve ever been. They’re also more expensive than ever before, in part because of how far they’ve come, and in part because modern cars demand bigger, better rubber at each corner. This wouldn’t be a big deal, except tires are also a consumable: Unlike a $1000 differential that will …

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GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/27/19 2:09 p.m.

Hmm yes this is very relevant to my interests...not just for racing use, but it would be a better option for street-driven cars than Chinese cheapo tires with hilarious brand names you've never heard of.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
8/27/19 2:21 p.m.

Agreed. I've already got a few sets on the way for the Lemons car!

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/27/19 2:21 p.m.

I got excited for budget rally tires, but they aren't. sad

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
8/27/19 2:24 p.m.

https://tirestreets.com/products/accelera-ra162-205-65-r15

$185 shipped is a good deal, no? It's been a while since I've bought rally tires but I remember them being in the mid-$200 range for a 15.

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/27/19 2:28 p.m.

There are multiple options for $160-200 now. It isn't a bad deal, I was just hoping that possibly they had a source for $100 rally tires. 

Pepe
Pepe New Reader
8/27/19 4:44 p.m.

From the website:

"the 651 Sport shreds evenly and can last up to 7 heat cycles depending on your car and set up, and of course the track you are on."

Seven heat cycles? That doesn't sound like much.

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
8/27/19 5:58 p.m.
Tom Suddard said:

https://tirestreets.com/products/accelera-ra162-205-65-r15

$185 shipped is a good deal, no? It's been a while since I've bought rally tires but I remember them being in the mid-$200 range for a 15.

Not terrible, but Federal Federally-1 gravel tires can be gotten from the East Coast distributor for $600/set shipped in that size (made in Taiwan).

$185 shipped is still pretty reasonable for 15" gravels though. 

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
8/27/19 6:05 p.m.
GameboyRMH said:

Hmm yes this is very relevant to my interests...not just for racing use, but it would be a better option for street-driven cars than Chinese cheapo tires with hilarious brand names you've never heard of.

hehe, props for digging up my old thread.

The Accelera tires appear to be made in Indonesia, if anybody cares. 

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
8/27/19 7:05 p.m.
Tom Suddard said:

https://tirestreets.com/products/accelera-ra162-205-65-r15

$185 shipped is a good deal, no? It's been a while since I've bought rally tires but I remember them being in the mid-$200 range for a 15.

So curiously, the rally tire they show is a "right side" asymetric tire. But there is no option to order "right" or "left" (which there should be). Four right-side gravel tires won't do much good lol.....if you talk to them, you may want to inquire. 

kevinatfms
kevinatfms Reader
8/28/19 5:54 a.m.

They dont offer a 205/50R15? WTF.

klodkrawler05
klodkrawler05 HalfDork
8/28/19 6:38 a.m.
Pepe said:

From the website:

"the 651 Sport shreds evenly and can last up to 7 heat cycles depending on your car and set up, and of course the track you are on."

Seven heat cycles? That doesn't sound like much.

I would guess it depends how long the heat cycles are? The general autox concensus is that Bridgestone RE71R's only last 80 autox runs before they get noticably worse. The hot street tires of today just don't last like older ones.

buzzboy
buzzboy HalfDork
8/28/19 6:39 a.m.
Tom Suddard said:

Agreed. I've already got a few sets on the way for the Lemons car!

I'd be very interested to hear how they perform in Lemons. We've been RT615K people for a few years but can always stand to save a little money.

Error404
Error404 New Reader
8/28/19 7:34 a.m.

I'm interested, especially if they compare well with Falken Azenis RT615s. 

captainawesome
captainawesome Reader
8/28/19 8:15 a.m.

I'm interested in the 100tw ones. With code it's a little over $500 shipped in 235/40/18, so it makes me want to buy a set for science purposes. It would be nice to read reviews from someone other than drifters though. That's about all I am seeing data from at the moment.

Spec13_Josh
Spec13_Josh New Reader
8/28/19 10:44 a.m.

Currently stretching the last bit of life left out of a set of Dirrezza Z3s before winter hits. I would snag a set of these just to try them out as the track season comes to a close. But no 255/40/17. Interesting concept tho. I am curious and might buy a set for my street car for fun. 

NickD
NickD PowerDork
8/28/19 10:57 a.m.

In reply to Spec13_Josh :

Hey, Josh, fancy seeing you here. Aren't these what Brian is running on his GTi?

mikell17
mikell17 New Reader
8/28/19 11:01 a.m.

I’ve been buying these for 6 years now.  They’re good tires and the price is great compared to comparable tires.  They’re also good looking tires.   I think I paid about $140 for 275/35/19.  I bought Phi 2’s.  The prices on the website is cheaper than I’ve been paying. 

morello159
morello159 Reader
8/28/19 11:22 a.m.

In for some lap times... I run Rival S tires on my Miata all the time but I'm looking to move to two sets - one for street and one for track. Something like this might fit the bill for street driving.

Rodan
Rodan Dork
8/28/19 12:02 p.m.

No 205/50-15, and no 225/45-15 in their 'race' line... ??  So much for the Miata market.

I'll be interested to hear how these work out for folks, but I'm very surprised by the lack of these sizes if they're trying to break into the budget racing market, especially the 205/50-15.

Error404
Error404 New Reader
8/28/19 5:42 p.m.
Rodan said:

No 205/50-15, and no 225/45-15 in their 'race' line... ??  So much for the Miata market.

I'll be interested to hear how these work out for folks, but I'm very surprised by the lack of these sizes if they're trying to break into the budget racing market, especially the 205/50-15.

I only know what was written up there and what I saw with a peek on their site but, from what I've heard they're big in the drift crowd right now. That demand of drift cars might be driving their supply. I am curious if calls from the GRM Miata drivers would prompt them to add more Miata apprope tires to their lineup.

vwcorvette
vwcorvette GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
8/28/19 6:51 p.m.

Just a quick look at their site looks like drift oriented for sure. Especially based on the sizes. By "race" I think they meant to type "drift."

Spec13_Josh
Spec13_Josh New Reader
8/29/19 6:24 a.m.

In reply to NickD :

Hey I know you! I think he runs accellera. Never heard of them either. 

RedGT
RedGT Dork
8/29/19 10:23 a.m.

The widest 17" is a 235, and the widest 18" is a 265.  Oh well.  They tried?

 

The '7 heat cycle' thing definitely sounds like drift language.  It even says 'shred' right in that paragraph.

Vigo
Vigo MegaDork
8/29/19 10:54 a.m.

Im fairly interested based on this review found there:

Ethan Hodges - 235/40 R18 on Dec 03, 2018

I tried these on my 2007 Nissan 350z for track day grip driving and drifting. After warming them up on the Palm Beach International Raceway road course, I found they had excellent grip, The 100trw 235/40/18 had more grip than the larger and wider 200trw 265/35/18 size throughout the entry and exit of each corner. After a full session on the road course, I began a drift session (same set of tires) on the Palm Beach International Raceway G0-Kart track where I abused and smoked the tires for about 45 minutes straight. They wore slightly more quickly than the 200trw version of this tire but had a significant amount more grip as well. I can tell you The 100trw 235/40/18 651 Sport XTRA are different animal than the 200trw 235/40/18 651 Sport as I have tried both.

 

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