What can potentially happen anytime you track your ride.
Then again, you should see the other guy...
What can potentially happen anytime you track your ride.
Then again, you should see the other guy...
OW!
AAA Speedway?
Apparently it's the source of some sort of dust-up, according to jalopnik:
http://jalopnik.com/5949834/mclaren-driver-allegedly-crashed-250k-supercar-into-subaru-brz-after-ten-minutes-on-track
Guess this would fall under the first rule of track driving...
"If you emotionally and financially can't afford to leave it in the dumpster at the end of the day, don't drive it on the track."
Wish I could afford a McLaren as a track whore!
The first rule of track driving is, don't drive like a E36 M3 head.
Also, track days are not to be driven at 10/10ths. Save 10/10ths for when it counts (in a race)
Also, don't be this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7iUKaPlBl8
Or this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYbl-gO3ak
And that's why I track a $2500 Miata.
douchenozzle supercar owners are douchnozzles
This is why I track a Civic Wagovan and an S10 pick up with a boat body on it...
Ouch!
If a McLaren did that to me, I would wear that damage as a badge of honor. Kinda like how I leave cone scuffs on the 240sx as battle scars.
Another reason why my track cars can be replaced by a day trip to the junkyard
If the McLaren had done that to my car, well, I don't think anyone would be able to notice. CF bounces off of real steel, right?
Interesting story on the guy for sure...
Had a mclaren (and a bunch of toyoburus) at the autocross in Houston on Sunday. The guy was actually much nicer than I thought he'd be. He was genuinely excited to shave a second off on his last run even though the time wouldn't have even gotten him a trophy in STF. Anyway, supercar owners might be giant douche nozzles, or they could be pretty chill and excited about playing with cars.
turboswede wrote: Also, track days are not to be driven at 10/10ths. Save 10/10ths for when it counts (in a race)
I've never understood that either, most track days I typically only drive 7-8/10ths, but I always bring my street car that I've driven there.
Yet I've been to events and seen the same guy loop his car about a half-dozen times over the course of a weekend, and no one sits him down and talks to him.
4cylndrfury wrote: douchenozzle owners are douchnozzles
Fixed that, douchenozzles are just douchenozzles. I've met great Miata owners and I've met great Ferrari owners (don't konw any McLaren owners), I've also met douchnozzle Miata/Civic/E30/Toyota etc. owners.
the money you have/earn/inherit/win/don't have doesn't make you a good or bad person.
I drove 11/10ths at track days because I had a car I can afford to stuff and walk away from. Never looped it, never hit anyone because I still respected other cars and we did the wave to pass and I realized that faster cars were going to pass me and I didn't fight them for position. Not sure who was at fault there, but neither seemed like a dedicated track day so they both should have backed off.
That story is E36 M3 journalism.
This is a non-story. E36 M3 happens at the track, contact occurs, and someone is usually at fault. It is, afterall, hard to crash without any reason. In the last 13yrs or so I have been on-track I have seen everything from priceless vintage cars, new Ferraris, Porsches, M3s and Vettes and a host of expensive race cars piled into tires, barriers, walls and each other. Probably more than 100 in total. There was always a reason. I have even been in the drivers and passenger seats of a ride gone bad. More than once. Hell, two weeks ago in a sprint race I went up in the air then backwards across the grass at the exit of Mid-Ohio's Thunder Valley at over 90 mph from a little love tap. I got hit from behind but I still share responsibility for the outcome. I knew he was there. I didn't leave him room and he didn't yield. It does not matter who was "right". I got the bum suspension. He lost a $1000 CF splitter. I wanted to kill him for about 5 minutes but when I cooled off and thought about it I shook his hand and we drank beer. Risk is part of the game and cost is relative. The guy in the McClaren knows it as well as any guy in a miata. Track cars have no value until they return to the pits. It still sucks to have it end badly.
My favorite quote on the subject was from the former chief flagger at the Glen. An old guy in suspenders with a nickname like Bud, Red or something close to that.
"Ya'll got a lot of nice cars here today. Ain't nothing gonna happen here today that makes 'em any nicer. How about ya'll just try not to make 'em any worse."
I haven't done a track day yet, but what GPS just posted makes more sense than anything I've read on the internet today. 
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: "Ya'll got a lot of nice cars here today. Ain't nothing gonna happen here today that makes 'em any nicer. How about ya'll just try not to make 'em any worse."
Can a half-attributed secondhand quote qualify for "Say What"?
Wow, the McLaren driver seems like a monstrous douchebag and crappy driver.
Either that or Jalopnik pandoring to the ft86 crowd again......
Also, while not guessing at blame, I will however say.....Both drivers sound like complete douchebags with what is written in that article.
wae wrote: http://jalopnik.com/5949834/mclaren-driver-allegedly-crashed-250k-supercar-into-subaru-brz-after-ten-minutes-on-track
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: That story is E36 M3 journalism.
seeing jalopnik.com in the link is usually the first indication......
+1 on you dont have to be a supercar driver to be a douchebag. I already have seen pics of a rolled FRS, owner going on and on about how it was the tire's fault and Toyota's fault for installing crappy tires at the factory. I called him out about learning to drive within the car's limitations. He told me the tires suck, and the truth hurts. He might have even called me Bro. Yeah.
failboat wrote:wae wrote: http://jalopnik.com/5949834/mclaren-driver-allegedly-crashed-250k-supercar-into-subaru-brz-after-ten-minutes-on-trackGiant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: That story is E36 M3 journalism.seeing jalopnik.com in the link is usually the first indication......
I don't know why I check jalopnik evey day, but I just can't help myself. I guess a junkie will try to find a fix anywhere...
failboat wrote:wae wrote: http://jalopnik.com/5949834/mclaren-driver-allegedly-crashed-250k-supercar-into-subaru-brz-after-ten-minutes-on-trackGiant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: That story is E36 M3 journalism.seeing jalopnik.com in the link is usually the first indication...... +1 on you dont have to be a supercar driver to be a douchebag. I already have seen pics of a rolled FRS, owner going on and on about how it was the tire's fault and Toyota's fault for installing crappy tires at the factory. I called him out about learning to drive within the car's limitations. He told me the tires suck, and the truth hurts. He might have even called me Bro. Yeah.
I definitely agree there.......jalopnik does suck....
That is some sucky writing - I won't bother calling it journalism. There is a lot of story-telling rather than fact reporting. What is actually known is that two cars collided in a turn on a track day and both are at fault - as others have put it - the fact that you showed up means you own a chunk of blame if anything goes wrong. I suspect the go pro camera on the mcclaren would be the best reporter of how events unfolded.
In making up my own alternative stories just looking at the damage, white car had a legitimate inside position (unless he was on the grass), so silver car either didn't see him (situation awareness problem) or made a move to close white car off (douche problem). White car has no where to go (situation awareness problem), or alternatively is carrying too much speed for the corner and pushes into silver (douche problem). Considering it was a track day not a w2w competition day, I'm thinking some level of summer's eve on both parts.
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