I'm an idiot. No sunroof - just the headroom in general sucked for me.
I'm an idiot. No sunroof - just the headroom in general sucked for me.
ProDarwin said:MrChaos said:I think the throttle mapping in regular is fine. It seems decent to me.
Interesting. I have an R spec and its terrible in regular mode. Everyone I've talked to elsewhere with the N has the same thoughts. I even see lots of comments like this:
The first time I put it up on ramps to change the oil I smoked the clutch like I never drove a manual trans in my life
Or
I cannot stand to drive the car with the throttle response set to anything less than Sport+, the feel is to vague in all but the sportiest setting causing me to have a hard time correlating the throttle and clutch positions in a natural way.
Or in my own case:
The other day I stalled my R spec 3 times in a row before realizing it was not in Sport mode. The throttle mapping is terrible.
those were issues I had with the First gen Forte as well. IT was not hard to stall which seemed silly with the torque of the big block 4 and gearing
I am considering one to these as well. I test drove one of the early Turbo Velosters and found it to be a fun and responsive car. When I visited the booth at the local New Car Show in the spring they had the "N" variant. I sat, poked, prodded, tested the knowledge of the sales guy and walked away impressed. What didn't impress me was that I would need to be put on a "List" in order to test drive one. That kind of turned me off.
Mike924 said:I am considering one to these as well. I test drove one of the early Turbo Velosters and found it to be a fun and responsive car. When I visited the booth at the local New Car Show in the spring they had the "N" variant. I sat, poked, prodded, tested the knowledge of the sales guy and walked away impressed. What didn't impress me was that I would need to be put on a "List" in order to test drive one. That kind of turned me off.
I literally called one dealer and set it straight on the phone. Let me drive both styles - non-PP and performance pack. If i like it you will more than likely get a sale. You screw me around and ill leave instantly.
I test drove both and was offered the non-pp at a significant discount. Didnt take it as i wanted a PP car. They tried some shady stuff to get me into a non-pp car for a PP price so i left. They have been calling for 4 months trying to get me back in the door.
Im surprised they are adding people to a list to get test drives. Seems counter productive on a car they want to sell to the masses.
I will say the car is an absolute riot. Loved every part of it and really like the seating position and gearbox. Clutch was a little light but i kind of expected it. Also couldnt believe the N mode exhaust is legal. So loud but so much fun.
MrChaos said:N mode sounds amazing and the pops and crackles are fun. You do need a relatively good road though since that suspension is FIRM in N mode.
Keep in mind, Biermann has suggested that N suspension mode was developed specifically for track use on track tires. It's always going to be too firm on the street, because it was developed so that you can roll up to the track, up the damping and run 100-200TW tires at the track all day.
goingnowherefast said:MrChaos said:N mode sounds amazing and the pops and crackles are fun. You do need a relatively good road though since that suspension is FIRM in N mode.
Keep in mind, Biermann has suggested that N suspension mode was developed specifically for track use on track tires. It's always going to be too firm on the street, because it was developed so that you can roll up to the track, up the damping and run 100-200TW tires at the track all day.
I wonder if it will actually handle 20-minute sessions without overheating?
z31maniac said:goingnowherefast said:MrChaos said:N mode sounds amazing and the pops and crackles are fun. You do need a relatively good road though since that suspension is FIRM in N mode.
Keep in mind, Biermann has suggested that N suspension mode was developed specifically for track use on track tires. It's always going to be too firm on the street, because it was developed so that you can roll up to the track, up the damping and run 100-200TW tires at the track all day.
I wonder if it will actually handle 20-minute sessions without overheating?
We had someone running HPDEs at VIR in a red one back in October. Had an aftermarket set of rimz on it with, presumably, stickyish tires. It went out for every session and stayed out until the checkered flag flew.
z31maniac said:I wonder if it will actually handle 20-minute sessions without overheating?
Their official media launch was done at Thunderhill. I forgot which youtuber it was that said it, but they ran those same cars in ~100 F heat all day. The Hyundai techs checked everything including the pads, but didn't need to change anything all day. Didn't hear of one car having issue.
I think that's a big part of it. The project idea was to focus less about overall lap times, and more about fun. Fun including being able to track the car all day, without any issues. They also warranty track work like GM performance vehicles.
Some people will just hate on these no matter what. Fine for me.... I might be able to get in one cheaper.
How much camber can you get in the front with stock parts? I've heard a few stories of a dealership carried camber bolt setup, but haven't seen that come to fruition. I want a reason to get one, but can't really find it.
accordionfolder said:How much camber can you get in the front with stock parts? I've heard a few stories of a dealership carried camber bolt setup, but haven't seen that come to fruition. I want a reason to get one, but can't really find it.
Reports I have seen are around 0.8 deg... so not enough that I would be interested in running one in stock class :(
ProDarwin said:accordionfolder said:How much camber can you get in the front with stock parts? I've heard a few stories of a dealership carried camber bolt setup, but haven't seen that come to fruition. I want a reason to get one, but can't really find it.
Reports I have seen are around 0.8 deg... so not enough that I would be interested in running one in stock class :(
You can't run camber bolts in DS? (I don't know I'm really asking). They are releasing a full "N" catalog of performance parts including camber bolts. Until then, whiteline makes a set that can get close to -2.5
goingnowherefast said:ProDarwin said:accordionfolder said:How much camber can you get in the front with stock parts? I've heard a few stories of a dealership carried camber bolt setup, but haven't seen that come to fruition. I want a reason to get one, but can't really find it.
Reports I have seen are around 0.8 deg... so not enough that I would be interested in running one in stock class :(
You can't run camber bolts in DS? (I don't know I'm really asking). They are releasing a full "N" catalog of performance parts including camber bolts. Until then, whiteline makes a set that can get close to -2.5
You can't run them unless the factory explicitly allows them (I forget the wording).
I don't run anything in stock class. Why when you can have fun playing with it.
bobzilla said:I don't run anything in stock class. Why when you can have fun playing with it.
Because 10 year/100k warranty if you don't?
In reply to ProDarwin :
I seriously doubt camber bolts will void the warranty ;)
I'm not too concerned about autoX classing TBH, though I see why it sounded like that's what I was getting at. -2.5 - is pretty good for a street driven front driver.
ProDarwin said:bobzilla said:I don't run anything in stock class. Why when you can have fun playing with it.
Because 10 year/100k warranty if you don't?
Let me rephrase that.... I don't buy a new car to run stock autox class. Even then I still ran coilovers, catback, header etc on my Forte that was still under warranty.
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