Trucks at Mosport

Nascar trucks live a Mosport on Fox1/Speed!

Huge fan of Mosport. Trucks should be a good show.

(Does anyone have an auto blocker for M. Waltrip commentary?)

Check it out!

Rog

NASCAR in Canada Eh?

Another thread going on in the off topic section, we're all rooting for Mike Skeen. :) http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/off-topic-discussion/spec-e30-champion-making-his-nascar-debut-this-weekend/69796/page1/

What the berkeley just happened here?

Typical WWE BULLE36 M3 at the end.

Yea, mr elliot, he "chopped" you, since he had all of the very, very rear of the car exposed to you. Great way to win, feel proud.

Still can't see what happened between Skeen and Papis- but it appears that Mike dive bombed in the last corner.

His tires were going off so badly, it was worth settling for 4th (3rd by the way it ended).

But that kind of racing with less than 5 laps is what makes all NASCAR racing very unappealing. Seems like the worst accidents happen near the finish. Not cool.

according to the announcers Mike had passed Max somewhere on the last lap ... then Max decided that wasn't cool, and fixed the problem on the last corner

I really want to see Skeen win, but this doesn't look good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4tw_kzEtAE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Looks like axle hop on the way into the corner since he tagged Max with the back corner of his truck.

Hate to do it but jalopnik has all the video of that crap

http://jalopnik.com/nascar-truck-race-ends-with-max-papis-getting-hilarious-1236576202

And Paps comes off as an uber douche

.....and Skeen's girl friend has been banned from the pits indefinitely, plus gets a $2500 fine. Skeen's crew chief pays another $2500 and that's the sum total of discipline after the race. The on-track shenanigans is all "just racing" .

DeadSkunk wrote: .....and Skeen's girl friend has been banned from the pits indefinitely, plus gets a $2500 fine. Skeen's crew chief pays another $2500 and that's the sum total of discipline after the race. The on-track shenanigans is all "just racing" .

And people wonder why other people see NASCAR as "ain't racing". And the NASCAR fans scratch their heads at all the other racing series and their obvious penalty box.

DeadSkunk wrote: .....and Skeen's girl friend has been banned from the pits indefinitely, plus gets a $2500 fine. Skeen's crew chief pays another $2500 and that's the sum total of discipline after the race. The on-track shenanigans is all "just racing" .

$2500 ... cheap at twice the price

Ranger50 wrote:

DeadSkunk wrote: .....and Skeen's girl friend has been banned from the pits indefinitely, plus gets a $2500 fine. Skeen's crew chief pays another $2500 and that's the sum total of discipline after the race. The on-track shenanigans is all "just racing" .

And people wonder why other people see NASCAR as "ain't racing". And the NASCAR fans scratch their heads at all the other racing series and their obvious penalty box.

it's all in what you are raised with... the top NASCAR series are the best of the best from the thousands of 1/2 mile and shorter bullrings that dot the landscape from coast to coast. and those places are brutal places where you fight for your place on the track.

novaderrik wrote:

Ranger50 wrote:

DeadSkunk wrote: .....and Skeen's girl friend has been banned from the pits indefinitely, plus gets a $2500 fine. Skeen's crew chief pays another $2500 and that's the sum total of discipline after the race. The on-track shenanigans is all "just racing" .

And people wonder why other people see NASCAR as "ain't racing". And the NASCAR fans scratch their heads at all the other racing series and their obvious penalty box.

it's all in what you are raised with... the top NASCAR series are the best of the best from the thousands of 1/2 mile and shorter bullrings that dot the landscape from coast to coast. and those places are brutal places where you fight for your place on the track.

I'll just be a snob and believe it's because I'm more civilized then the typical NASCAR fan.

I grew up with it, going to races, etc.........I think it's bullsh!t that intentionally wrecking people out of the race is considered OK.

In reply to z31maniac:

I won't classify myself as more "civilized" but I have real problems with mindsets that condone, even encourage, destruction of someone's honest effort and hard work.

Give me some hard, wheel to wheel racing and I can accept some occasional contact. When punting someone in front you because you can't pass them any other way is the norm, well, that just sucks.

Wow that was a stupid move.

z31maniac wrote:

novaderrik wrote:

Ranger50 wrote:

DeadSkunk wrote: .....and Skeen's girl friend has been banned from the pits indefinitely, plus gets a $2500 fine. Skeen's crew chief pays another $2500 and that's the sum total of discipline after the race. The on-track shenanigans is all "just racing" .

And people wonder why other people see NASCAR as "ain't racing". And the NASCAR fans scratch their heads at all the other racing series and their obvious penalty box.

it's all in what you are raised with... the top NASCAR series are the best of the best from the thousands of 1/2 mile and shorter bullrings that dot the landscape from coast to coast. and those places are brutal places where you fight for your place on the track.

I'll just be a snob and believe it's because I'm more civilized then the typical NASCAR fan. I grew up with it, going to races, etc.........I think it's bullsh!t that intentionally wrecking people out of the race is considered OK.

maybe it's not "ok" from a purely sportsmanship standpoint, but it is entertaining, and that's what sells tickets..

So, the comments I've seen regarding "The Slap" seem to tilt to strongly favorabe. So I think Skeen/his girlfriend/his crewchief should ask on Facebook for donations to cover the penalties. It would be hilarious if they raise more than $5,000.

David

oldsaw wrote: In reply to z31maniac: I won't classify myself as more "civilized" but I have real problems with mindsets that condone, even encourage, destruction of someone's honest effort and hard work. Give me some hard, wheel to wheel racing and I can accept some occasional contact. When punting someone in front you because you can't pass them any other way is the norm, well, that just sucks.

you seem to have forgotten that Dale Sr is the standard for this sanctioning body, and that's how he did it

To say that NASCAR divers go out to wreck other cars and it is the norm is just uninformed. Does it happen occassionally, yes. It happens in sportscars all the time.

We get it, you don't like stockcar racing because you like "real racing". I think open wheel racing is the most lame spactator racing but you don't see me going into F1 threads to talk about how boring those parade laps are.

While I don't like the "take 'em out" attitude in NASCAR, I really enjoyed watching that truck race and may well go to Mosport if they return next year. Road racing stock cars are entertaining to watch, even when they aren't playing demolition derby. One of the best races I have seen was a CASCAR support race at the Toronto Molson Indy a few years ago. Stockers drifting through the final turn onto the front straight lap after lap is fun to watch.

These guys are pros and do this stuff for a living. If you think #3 didn't know what was going to happen when he tried to take that line away, you clearly don't know what's going on. Either somebody was going to back off, or they were going to collide. It was a calculated risk, and he lost.

Zomby Woof wrote: These guys are pros and do this stuff for a living. If you think #3 didn't know what was going to happen when he tried to take that line away, you clearly don't know what's going on. Either somebody was going to back off, or they were going to collide. It was a calculated risk, and he lost.

That's a pretty poor way to win a fair race. And makes the racing rather unappealing. I'm not sure I want to watch a race where it's a calculated risk to take a corner reasonably well only to be hit behind the rear tire in the last corner on the last lap of a race to win. it's not as if it was a realistic dive bomb that was just amazingly late braking where he got even- it was that so far behind that had he not hit, he would have finished 2nd regardless.

having seen a lot of optimistic passing going on in the last few laps of a race, one can see that the economic pressures of finishing high > the pressure of a fair pass without touching..

I know they are not trying to wreck each other, but I just don't find it appealing that they find contact acceptable to win. For that race, the guy who won should be forced to finish behind the guy he crashed, since that was avoidable contact.

Anti-stance wrote: To say that NASCAR divers go out to wreck other cars and it is the norm is just uninformed. Does it happen occassionally, yes. It happens in sportscars all the time. We get it, you don't like stockcar racing because you like "real racing". I think open wheel racing is the most lame spactator racing but you don't see me going into F1 threads to talk about how boring those parade laps are.

Agree to disagree, but intentional contact is far from "occasional" in NASCAR.