Lancer007 wrote: Clean, unmolested S2000s are gonna be a hot commodity.
+1. Already saving up for one again to be a weekend car.
Lancer007 wrote: Clean, unmolested S2000s are gonna be a hot commodity.
+1. Already saving up for one again to be a weekend car.
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How about anything we are looking at now? I'm assuming in the future AW11 MR2's and FC RX7's will be insanely rare. NA miatas? how about those? Those are harder to find now, what will happen in 10 years after so many were turned into spec miatas or rust into oblivion in the rust belt?
I personally know where to find a mint, unmolested, original (old lady) owned sub 20k mile MKIII supra turbo with a 5-speed. how rare will that be in 2024? Everybody snatched up MKIV's, but MKIII's will likely all be toast/in need of major restoration by then.
Also, nobody tell my mom I just called her an old lady. She'll kick my butt.
The S2000, the Mazdaspeed MX5 and the Lotus Elise. Clean unmolested ones are going to bring some serious dinero.
The Solstice and the S2 RX8's (R3 definitely) No doubt in my mind.
The 370 and 135i less so but will be at a premium for unmolested models.
I hope you're right, I have one of those cars! 
bigdaddylee82 wrote: V50 AWD Manual was listed earlier, still today a S/V70 with a turbo and a manual is considered a unicorn. Any of the later manual + turbo cars will be sought after, add AWD to the mix, and you get a "unicorn" see the '05+ AWD, manual, T5 S40 for example. Add the later Polestar tuned cars, especially the C30 to the list too. - Lee
I happen to have a V50 sitting in my garage right now - my mother's more mundane, 2.4 automatic. It's a nice enough car, but I'm not sure more power, AWD and a manual transmission would make it all that much exciting. The interior lets that car down. My VW Mk IV that 6 years and 300K miles older is still nicer to spend time in. She has also been disappointed in the reliability. It's been spending quite a bit of time in the shop lately and it's out of warranty. While my mother is pretty tolerant of things, even she has her limits and if she can't trust the car to take her to Florida to visit her sister it'll be gone.
The unicorn car I've had a hard time getting out of my head lately is the '08 535Xi Touring 6 spd. Yes, I know the turbo engine isn't most loved BMW engine ever made, but damn that's a lot of car for the roughly $25K price I found one for... I'm just not sure I want to take care of one of those with the kind of miles I put on a car.
Rufledt wrote: I hope you're right, I have one of those cars!
Same here, just no R3..
The s2000 thing..... I'm not sure they'll drop much more in price to where your average GRM'er would buy one. The current trend is that people think these things are freaking gold. A local guy had a 2001 with E36 M3ty replica hard top (you can see daylight between it and the car), front lip and rear duckbill spoiler that the paint just doesn't quite match, junk coilovers and some CCW knock off with major stretch (235s on a damn 11.5 inch wide wheel). Sold that bitch last week for $16.5K. I couldn't believe it. That's well over twice what I paid for mine.
stuart in mn wrote:White_and_Nerdy wrote: The G8 may be rare, but in 10 years there will be lots of decommissioned cop Caprices out there in civilian hands. I predict it may be the new P71 by then.I think the Pontiac G8 GXP with a manual transmission will always be sought after. Besides being the last performance Pontiac, they only sold about 1800 of them.
There were 1850-something total. Less than half had three pedals. I've heard between 800 and 900. They still seem to fetch almost $30k for those with reasonable mileage.
I want one, but as I do about 60K a year on my DD, I am a little afraid of driving a rare car into the ground.
Ian F wrote:bigdaddylee82 wrote: V50 AWD Manual was listed earlier, still today a S/V70 with a turbo and a manual is considered a unicorn. Any of the later manual + turbo cars will be sought after, add AWD to the mix, and you get a "unicorn" see the '05+ AWD, manual, T5 S40 for example. Add the later Polestar tuned cars, especially the C30 to the list too. - LeeI happen to have a V50 sitting in my garage right now - my mother's more mundane, 2.4 automatic. It's a nice enough car, but I'm not sure more power, AWD and a manual transmission would make it all that much exciting. The interior lets that car down. My VW Mk IV that 6 years and 300K miles older is still nicer to spend time in. She has also been disappointed in the reliability. It's been spending quite a bit of time in the shop lately and it's out of warranty. While my mother is pretty tolerant of things, even she has her limits and if she can't trust the car to take her to Florida to visit her sister it'll be gone.
The talk of Volvo's got me thinking about my car, the C30 manual. I just checks Autotrader for all years of C30, there are 448 for sale in the whole of hte US of which 90 are manual, so 20%. Really not bad.
I had to take a gamble ordering mine as the only cars to drive were all auto's. I frequently defend modern auto's here, but not this one. The old school turbo 5 pot is horrible with an auto, I would never own that engine with that trans.
Totaly off topic. Anyone know if the rear floor pan and center tunnel are the same on the FWD and AWD S40 and V50? If so that means I could build an AWD C30 with just bolt on parts 
In reply to Adrian_Thompson:
A friend of mine is active in the C30 community and I've heard rumors a few deaelrs still have leftover C30 Polestars with 6 spds on the lot.
As far as the floorpans... possibly. It seems to be common to use a single pan. Some years ago, a group of TDI guys converted a US-spec B5 Passat V6 auto to a TDI 4-motion 6 spd at it was all bolt-on. However, they did literally strip the car down to the bare body and replace damn near everything, including the complete wiring harness.
JohnRW1621 wrote: It will be rare in the similar fashion to how the MR-S is rare (an holding its value well.)
Yet I see MR-S's on craigslist all day here in Dayton. Cluttering up my searches for a nice SC 89...
Probably same thing I am now. Spitfires, Jags (except maybe I will be able to swing a currently new XFR or F-type),MGB GT.
Whatever cars we're driving in 10 years, I can guarantee at least one of us nutjobs will be towing it to events with a V10 TDI Touareg.
bastomatic wrote: Whatever cars we're driving in 10 years, I can guarantee at least one of us nutjobs will be towing it to events with a V10 TDI Touareg.
After a brake swop from somthing cheaper like a Porsche 911 turbo. (I hear that stock Toe-rag brakes cost like $3k to replace)
NGTD wrote: Cobalt SS Turbo's with a manual trans. Forester and Outback XT's with manuals (already unicorns)
No joke on manual FXT's already being unicorns... My buddy was shopping around for one this past summer and on the morning it was posted, we found a 2004 Java Black Pearl MT FXT at a Ford dealer just over 325 miles away. It was a Saturday, so he immediately called and put a deposit on it so we could make the drive to look at and possibly take it home that day. Unfortunately, my WRX wagon had a blow out on the way... Already knowing that the car dislikes the space saver, we had to postpone the trip till the following weekend. The FXT was getting so much interest, that on more than one occasion a couple of unknowing salesmen told phone call inquiring parties (that lived good distatances away as well) that the car was still available without checking for a deposit. The people actually drove the distance only to find out that the car was technically sold after their long drive... They even informed my buddy that if he didn't get it the day he planned, that they would refund his deposit and the car would be sold because they had taken MULTIPLE backup deposits through the overwhelming interest the car was getting. Due to this, there was absolutely no haggling on the price, even thought we found that the clutch was just about shot...
Back on topic...
In my opinion, future unicorn cars will be unmolested examples of fun factory hopped up econo-cars normally owned (and abused) by adolescents and barely post-adolescents. I mean, look at some older examples that are already at that stage now...
-It's getting nearly impossible to find a 240SX that hasn't been hacked up and/or swapped, or turned into some douchey amateur drift car...
-Clean AWD DSM's that haven't been turned into modded straight line only performers or have had all sorts things ripped out of them...
-Can't remember the last time I saw an B/H-series VTEC Honda/Acura cars (EM1 Si, Integra GSR/Type R, Del Sol VTEC, 97-01 Prelude, etc.)from prior to 2002 for sale that haven't been modded, swapped, fully riced out and body kitted or recovered from a theft... Same goes for the EF/CRX, and 90's hatch and Del Sols.
-Same goes for finding clean Fox Body Stangs that haven't been turned into purpose built straight line cars.
It can even be said about some cars from within or close to the last ten years...
-I tried to find an SRT-4 Neon FIVE YEARS AGO, and I don't think I found any that didn't have one or a combination on the following factors: Go fast goodies past bolt-on's installed, tasteless cosmetic alterations and/or wheels, or a title that didn't have accident history or a rebuilt one. The same is starting to go for WRX/STi's and EVO VIII/IX's.
I think down the line the same will be said about the RSX-S, Cobalt SS (S/C & T/C)/Ion Redline, Focus SVT, Mazdaspeed 3, M/T Turbo Subaru's (and the 9-2X), 7G Celica GT-S, and probably some others.
I can definitely see Type R's, MKIV R32's, G8 GXP's, Solstice Coupes and 06 9-2X's being worthy of sharing of having their CL ads shared here as they start to disappear from the market, due to their initial low volume...
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