Using ATV's in stage rally.

In reply to Fueled by Caffeine:

limited to 40mph roads or less in TN.

Fueled by Caffeine wrote:

Cotton wrote:

Fueled by Caffeine wrote: Stick in mud mantra engaged. "Not street legal? Not real rally"

There are several states where UTVs and even ATVs can be made street legal with just a little work, like blinker kits, then it's just a matter of getting them tagged and insured. Apparently this is a thing in the UK as well. The last time I was in London I saw a few tagged quads running around.

If you can make them road legal and not limited to 25 MPH or so ( like they are in the states where they are road legal).. I'm all for it. Rally moto makes sense to me because it can be done with transits and tarmac SS's. I was at Sandblast for the first year of rally moto and enjoyed it. It was fun to watch those guys wheelie for the crowds...

I'm not sure what the limitations are in what states, but Arizona comes to mind as one that doesn't limit speed. It looks like at least some states treat them like a motorcycle, where you're required to have your M license designation and follow whatever rules apply to the bikers.

For me, I'd rather be on a bike anyway and have looked into Rally Moto. It looks like a blast, but nothing is near me yet.

NGTD wrote: I will paraphrase HiTempGuy - Cause that aint rally! If you can teach a computer to beat a chess master, then you can probably teach it to run an F1 car, but is anybody going to watch it? Good co-drivers also do a lot more - service planning, helping to change tires on stage, if needed, etc. It lets the driver concentrate on prepping the car, if they are not a factory driver (like most) and driving.

You are correct. Some people also may say that no Subaru or Mitsubishi in WRC the highest level of rally currently is not rally either since they are the only ones producing production based rally special type cars. How about no endurance or very many if any night stages isn't a rally either. As for teaching a computer to drive a F1 car it has pretty much been done but that isn't the issue being discussed. No computer is driving just aiding the driver in a navigation capacity. People are losing interest in F1 for the loss of sound in the new V6 turbo era. I hear all the complaints of WRC cars being a spec series of 1.6 inline turbo 4cyl in 3 door hatches we don't get while excluding real rally cars like Mistu and Subarus and no coverage for anything else and diversity of cars or technology. I get it that co drivers do more than read pace notes but not having a co driver would add more elements to the spectacle. The driver can plan for service and already helps change tires or repair the car at all levels of rallying. It seems some people are stuck in their own or one time period of what rally means to them. This usually results in stagnation of the sport. Look at the growth of rallycross in the US. There needs to be some attempts at trying new things to see if they appeal to current and new fans or enthusiasts as well as drawing more participants.