Stuff happens. But if it's a matter of more machine than the driver can handle, own up to it. The car got away from this guy and he's come up with some sort of weird mechanical failure to explain how he ended up in a ditch. It's reminiscent of the BMW M4 crash that was blamed on a 1.5 psi tire pressure differential. Sometimes you just have to say "I screwed up".
I see that as a simultaneously encountering the boundaries of talent and pavement. That said, maybe it could have been worse if not for mad dirt-bogging skills?
That said, "Wisdom does come from Experience, and Experience does come from a lack of Wisdom"
In reply to Keith Tanner :
Yes, but your Mini is FWD. This thing probably had a worse weight bias and 4x the power.
4x? You are being very rude to Hellcats. It's more like a factor of 9 or 10.
I've driven our XXXocet, which was 556 hp, 2000 lbs and fairly front biased. I managed not to have a "caliper seize". Simply having less than ideal weight distribution does not mean you're going to have an accident.
Keith, the difference being that your mini's rear wheels have the job of merely keeping it's ass from dragging on the ground. The hellcat powered miata's rear wheels have slightly more work cut out for them.
Keith Tanner said:I've driven our XXXocet, which was 556 hp, 2000 lbs and fairly front biased. I managed not to have a "caliper seize". Simply having less than ideal weight distribution does not mean you're going to have an accident.
In reply to Keith Tanner :
Oh, I definitely wasnt saying that it was the cause of the crash, I was just saying it was gross. Lol.
When I saw the crash photo, I thought the road looked familiar. If it is the road to Gainesville Raceway, it is tempting to stand on the throttle there, with how flat and straight it is. I've resisted the temptation, though. I guess they didn't.
loosecannon said:OHSCrifle said:What is (was?) the power to weight ratio of this thing and how close is it to a shifter kart?
You may be surprised to know that shifter karts don't have impressive power to weight ratios. My 250cc shifter kart makes 50 hp and weighs 400 lbs with me in it for a weight to power ratio of 8 lbs per hp. My autocross car weighs 1750 lbs with me in it and makes 350 hp, or 5 lbs per hp. The shifter kart feels faster because I'm an inch off the ground with nothing around me.
Learned something interesting today. Thank you.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Sometimes people go to far and this wasn't the first time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gee_Bee_Model_R
This thing needs to be lifted and on some all-terrains.
Also I dare you to go on the Clinically Depressed Mazda Miata owners facebook page and call this thing an NC. You'll enjoy the poopshow that unfolds.
Anybody that didn't see this coming was probably surprised by the ending of "Titanic".
kazoospec said:Anybody that didn't see this coming was probably surprised by the ending of "Titanic".
I haven’t seen that movie yet, so please don’t ruin it for me !!
Oooh, "near death experience," so dramatic. Dude had a gentle off into the grass and lost some body work.
dculberson said:Oooh, "near death experience," so dramatic. Dude had a gentle off into the grass and lost some body work.
He needs those likes for his daily reassurance.
I love living in a world where we are allowed to drive vehicles with dangerous power to weight ratios
loosecannon said:I love living in a world where we are allowed to drive vehicles with dangerous power to weight ratios
Without any training or licensing beyond proving that you can parallel park once as a teenager!
Australia has limits on engine swaps because of events like this that ended up less happily. Had this "seized caliper" occured with a bunch of Cars and Coffee spectators lining the road, it would have been the sort of thing that results in new regulations.
Keith Tanner said:loosecannon said:I love living in a world where we are allowed to drive vehicles with dangerous power to weight ratios
Without any training or licensing beyond proving that you can parallel park once as a teenager!
Australia has limits on engine swaps because of events like this that ended up less happily. Had this "seized caliper" occured with a bunch of Cars and Coffee spectators lining the road, it would have been the sort of thing that results in new regulations.
As in Mille Miglia and also Mercedes in the 1955 Le Mans race.
I have a feeling that the term "Seized Caliper" really means that he "Locked up a brake".
Regardless, I am glad that we are all discussing this in the light that we are rather than as a tragic event from a fluke accident.
Pete
In reply to NOHOME :
Agreed. I mean, he actually said he "had a caliper lock up"... That sounds to me more like an (intentionally?) inaccurate or ambiguous choice of words to describe standing on the brakes too hard/suddenly... He didn't say it seized, so his weird choice of word makes it hard to say what he meant to say, and whether he was talking about the caliper seizing or a wheel locking up.
You're right, he did say he had a caliper locked up. So I've been a bit harsh on the personal responsibility aspect. I apologize for that.
I wonder if the car were built with ABS but it was deleted to make room for the engine?
loosecannon said:I love living in a world where we are allowed to drive vehicles with dangerous power to weight ratios
Or you could be living in a world where you only have Ladas. I too am happy we have monsters like this at our fingertips.
dyintorace said:That happened near the Gainesville raceway I believe. It was in town for the import face off yesterday.
Those trees look awfully familiar.
It would sound to me like an excuse made to a policeman to avoid a ticket/ license removal for human error inspired by hp and hormones. I'm glad no one was hurt but we all know a buddy who totals a recently built fast car.
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