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Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
1/8/24 2:06 p.m.
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Artificial Intelligence is everywhere these days–and now it’s coming for your cars!

Well, sort of.

Volkswagen announced today plans to integrate the AI-based chatbot ChatGPT into the company’s IDA voice assistant, with an official debut at the CES 2024 trade fair set for January 9-12:

At CES 2024, the world's leading electronics trade fair from January 9 to 12, Volkswagen …

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Coniglio Rampante
Coniglio Rampante GRM+ Memberand Reader
1/9/24 11:12 a.m.

"Kewl." @VW.

Puddy46
Puddy46 Reader
1/9/24 11:29 a.m.

The draw of an old C10 with a carb'd 350 grows stronger everyday with news like this. 

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
1/9/24 12:07 p.m.

I really, really try not to be a Luddite in matters like this, but I have to wonder. Who is asking for this?

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
1/9/24 12:42 p.m.

Kill all humans. 

NOHOME
NOHOME MegaDork
1/9/24 12:46 p.m.

As someone who buys a new car every ten years with no visits to the dealer in between ( unless warranty issues) I have always found the technology jumps to be jarring.

With the latest visit having been this summer, I was introduced to the screen of stupid that is installed in the middle of the dash of every new car. Who woulda thunk that a TV screen in the front seat was a good idea? Now its the law. I find it useful to hang post-it notes.

 

I do not want to talk to a car.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 PowerDork
1/9/24 1:08 p.m.

Have you seen the AI art thread? Do we really want that monster inside of our cars? 

I feel like it's partially a gimmick and it's just a function like Alexa, Siri, or Hey Google. But also I don't want that E36 M3 in my car either. 

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia UberDork
1/9/24 1:43 p.m.

Who is going to start the thread "what would you ask VW Ai ?

Some interesting questions about design and the why they made some of the cars so hard to repair , 

And how many answers will be "I was only  following orders "

 

Personally I find Siri to be very useful in conjunction with Carplay.  The problem is that she has a limited range of skills and gets confused a lot.  Siri does OK with "play the Talking Heads on Spotify".  Not as well with "find me somewhere healthy to eat on my way to the airport".  If AI is a solution to this then it seems like a reasonable step in the right direction to me.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 PowerDork
1/9/24 2:26 p.m.
ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter) said:

Personally I find Siri to be very useful in conjunction with Carplay.  The problem is that she has a limited range of skills and gets confused a lot.  Siri does OK with "play the Talking Heads on Spotify".  Not as well with "find me somewhere healthy to eat on my way to the airport".  If AI is a solution to this then it seems like a reasonable step in the right direction to me.

Yea well what if that AI has been trained to subvert you in what is healthy vs. the illusion of healthy? 

DirtyBird222 said:
ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter) said:

Personally I find Siri to be very useful in conjunction with Carplay.  The problem is that she has a limited range of skills and gets confused a lot.  Siri does OK with "play the Talking Heads on Spotify".  Not as well with "find me somewhere healthy to eat on my way to the airport".  If AI is a solution to this then it seems like a reasonable step in the right direction to me.

Yea well what if that AI has been trained to subvert you in what is healthy vs. the illusion of healthy? 

Then it would be just like the actual human marketing that we're being hammered with every day.

rustomatic
rustomatic HalfDork
1/9/24 2:29 p.m.

I like VW, but this is not likable.

CrustyRedXpress
CrustyRedXpress GRM+ Memberand Dork
1/9/24 2:29 p.m.

Honestly, for long car rides it would be entertaining. 

Like an auditory form of the internet in 1998, you could just endlessly following what interests you. 

Also, when will we see a ChatGRM?

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
1/9/24 2:37 p.m.
californiamilleghia said:

And how many answers will be "I was only  following orders "

Hey, Siri, should I invade Poland?

Colin Wood
Colin Wood Associate Editor
1/9/24 2:43 p.m.
CrustyRedXpress said:

Also, when will we see a ChatGRM?

We tried it, but it kept trying to get us to buy broken-down cars from a friend of a distant relative.

No Time
No Time UltraDork
1/9/24 3:00 p.m.
DirtyBird222 said:
ShinnyGroove (Forum Supporter) said:

Personally I find Siri to be very useful in conjunction with Carplay.  The problem is that she has a limited range of skills and gets confused a lot.  Siri does OK with "play the Talking Heads on Spotify".  Not as well with "find me somewhere healthy to eat on my way to the airport".  If AI is a solution to this then it seems like a reasonable step in the right direction to me.

Yea well what if that AI has been trained to subvert you in what is healthy vs. the illusion of healthy? 

I'm thinking "healthy" would be the one that paid the most money to have their business listed first, regardless of nutritional value. 

Tom1200
Tom1200 PowerDork
1/9/24 3:40 p.m.

First........did they not watch Battlestar Galactica?

So AI is obviously nothing more than a program and so it's only as good as the human who programmed it.

I've lost track of the number of times I've had programmers ask me "why would you want it to do that?"

I don't think like a programmer and they don't think like me. I find most software frustrating........mostly because the software itself and subsequent upgrades are rushed to market because software is no longer a product.....it's a revenue stream.

Conversely I find joy in driving and don't want some annoying chatbot iny car.......nor do I wish to pay for it.

 

GTwannaB
GTwannaB GRM+ Memberand Dork
1/9/24 11:30 p.m.

Will the AI chatbot tell you why the check engine light is on, how to fix it, and order parts? Then it would be useful in a VW. 

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
1/9/24 11:41 p.m.
Tom1200 said:

First........did they not watch Battlestar Galactica?

So AI is obviously nothing more than a program and so it's only as good as the human who programmed it....

Sort of, it that is more like a standard program.  AI programmers only teach it how to start thinking, not what to think.  What to think is more based on its base of data/input and how the AI "develops" (much like a human brain).  So, how it is guided (feedback) is far more critical.  Put it in a bad environment (such as getting image suggestions from GRM members cheeky) can result is a pretty twisted AI.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
1/10/24 1:09 a.m.

A car I didn't want is a car I definitely don't want.

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia UberDork
1/10/24 10:56 a.m.

VW Ai  is going to be pretty confused in my old aircooled bug , 

I wonder if it will grow "Vines" to all the components  so that it can get the information it needs to live ?

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 PowerDork
1/10/24 12:55 p.m.
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) said:
californiamilleghia said:

And how many answers will be "I was only  following orders "

Hey, Siri, should I invade Poland?

"Hey ChatGPT, play Blitzkrieg Bop and set navigation to Warsaw."

I wonder if that would see the same backlash as Ben & Jerry's Black  & Tan ice cream has in Ireland. 

Noddaz
Noddaz GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/10/24 5:54 p.m.

This has great idea all over it.

racerfink
racerfink UberDork
1/10/24 6:27 p.m.

"Why are you driving so fast, Dave?  I can't let you do that."

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe PowerDork
1/10/24 7:00 p.m.

100% they use the mask of an AI to hide all the sensor and driving data they are collecting for level 3 and beyond autonomous driving. 

 

They also put this out the same day they killed the manual in a bunch of their cars including the Golf GTI.  

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