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noddaz
noddaz GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/8/20 5:58 p.m.
SVreX (Forum Supporter)
SVreX (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
6/8/20 7:40 p.m.

Guys, please stop worrying about the pump in the fuel tank. As noted in the very first post, this car has NO pump in the tank. 
 

And it does not need one. 
 

It was a running, driving, streetable, racing car, not a half finished swap.  My problem REALLY IS  there is no fuel getting to the injectors.. I don't need to do random diagnostics or swapping odd unrelated parts.  I don't need to double check a pump that's not there.  I don't need to swap a fuel tank in the hope of creating some magical wizardry that would start a car without getting fuel to the injectors.  I need to get fuel to the injectors. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/8/20 7:44 p.m.

With the fuel pump running, there should be more resistance on the air flapper. 

Stefan (Forum Supporter)
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6/8/20 7:49 p.m.
SVreX (Forum Supporter) said:

Guys, please stop worrying about the pump in the fuel tank. As noted in the very first post, this car has NO pump in the tank. 
 

And it does not need one. 
 

It was a running, driving, streetable, racing car, not a half finished swap.  My problem REALLY IS  there is no fuel getting to the injectors.. I don't need to do random diagnostics or swapping odd unrelated parts.  I don't need to double check a pump that's not there.  I don't need to swap a fuel tank in the hope of creating some magical wizardry that would start a car without getting fuel to the injectors.  I need to get fuel to the injectors. 

Then stop focusing on that and read and acknowledge the rest of the posts saying your fuel distributor is plugged up and needs to be cleaned or rebuilt.

I mean, you'll want to jumper the fuel pump relay to ensure there isn't something stopping the pump from  running.  Otherwise the fuel is getting to the distributor and no further.  Not much different than spark from a coil getting to the cap but not to the plug wires or plugs.

You can clean the injectors with an ultrasonic cleaner and some injector cleaner fluid, but you'll need to get fuel to them first.

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
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6/8/20 7:53 p.m.

I still think there is something wrong with the in tank pump. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
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6/8/20 8:28 p.m.
Robbie (Forum Supporter) said:

I still think there is something wrong with the in tank pump. 

The head gasket might be blown.

 

Maybe it's humid.

Slippery (Forum Supporter)
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6/8/20 10:10 p.m.

Clean the plunger. 

docwyte
docwyte UberDork
6/9/20 8:35 a.m.

Is the blinker fluid tank full?  laugh

vwcorvette (Forum Supporter)
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6/9/20 8:30 p.m.

As has been posted already, jump the fuel pump to run continuous at the relay (30 to 87), pull the injectors, with a magnet or set of vise grips gently gripping the nutnin the middle of the flapper plate pull up on plate (should be some resisitance) and see if you get flow at the injectors. If none, crack the injectors lines on top of distributor to see if there's pressure there.  I believe as others that the distributor is gummed up. It can be cleaned and rebuilt. A friend did one for me. Get the special anerobic sealant that goes on either side of the thin metal gasket or it will leak badly. 

Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter)
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6/10/20 6:32 a.m.

Not sure I've seen which FD you have, but the pic posted with the alum body one is the CIS-E one. 

I agree that your FD is likely plugged (somewhere) but the injectors can also stick and clog. They are easy enough to remove and test, especially if you confirm you have fuel to the injectors.

SVreX (Forum Supporter)
SVreX (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
6/10/20 6:57 a.m.

In reply to Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter) :

It's Bosch part number 0 438 101 039.

As noted, no fuel getting to the injectors.  I know this because I removed them.  No reason to test the injectors if there is no fuel getting to them.

SVreX (Forum Supporter)
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6/10/20 8:43 a.m.
Stefan (Forum Supporter) said:
Then stop focusing on that and read and acknowledge the rest of the posts saying your fuel distributor is plugged up and needs to be cleaned or rebuilt.

I'm trying hard to not focus on that stuff.  Everyone else seems to be.

Of the 17 responses on page 1, 8 of them referenced things that that were completely irrelevant based on my very first post.  That's not a very good track record- makes me think people aren't reading.

For the record, yes your posts have been helpful, and yes I acknowledge that my fuel distributor is plugged. (Though I'm pretty sure I knew that before I started this thread).  I will be working on it this weekend based on the info you posted.

And maybe I will check to see if the in-tank fuel pump is working.  cheeky

1SlowVW
1SlowVW Reader
6/10/20 12:26 p.m.

In reply to SVreX (Forum Supporter) :

You shouldn't need to remove anything to see if the pump is working. Those old Bosch pumps are loud. If you don't hear it when you turn the key you know it's not working.

SVreX (Forum Supporter)
SVreX (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
6/10/20 1:46 p.m.

In reply to 1SlowVW :

The pump is working. cheeky

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
6/10/20 1:57 p.m.
SVreX (Forum Supporter) said:
Stefan (Forum Supporter) said:
Then stop focusing on that and read and acknowledge the rest of the posts saying your fuel distributor is plugged up and needs to be cleaned or rebuilt.

I'm trying hard to not focus on that stuff.  Everyone else seems to be.

Of the 17 responses on page 1, 8 of them referenced things that that were completely irrelevant based on my very first post.  That's not a very good track record- makes me think people aren't reading.

For the record, yes your posts have been helpful, and yes I acknowledge that my fuel distributor is plugged. (Though I'm pretty sure I knew that before I started this thread).  I will be working on it this weekend based on the info you posted.

And maybe I will check to see if the in-tank fuel pump is working.  cheeky

There are also 8 correct replies, which you did not acknowledge.  Ignore the information that you know to be incorrect, and the whole first page was correct...

SVreX (Forum Supporter)
SVreX (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
6/10/20 2:06 p.m.

In reply to Streetwiseguy :

That's not actually correct. Half of those were neutral, or off topic. 
 

I didn't think it was necessary to reply to people that told me my fuel distributor was clogged when I already knew that before I started the thread, and made it clear in the first post. 
 

Sorry if I failed to recognize you appropriately.  I didn't realize we had such a detailed protocol for responding. cheeky 

chandler
chandler PowerDork
6/10/20 3:33 p.m.

This is so much fun

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
6/10/20 5:46 p.m.

In reply to SVreX (Forum Supporter) :

Wasn't really that you didn't respond to me, more that you devoted your energies to telling people it wasn't the fuel pump, so maybe we thought you didn't get it...

Have you pulled the fuel distributor off yet?laugh

SVreX (Forum Supporter)
SVreX (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
6/10/20 9:16 p.m.

In reply to Streetwiseguy :

I have no idea why this is so important to you...

Slippery (Forum Supporter)
Slippery (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/28/20 12:08 p.m.

SVreX, where you able to get it running?

SVreX (Forum Supporter)
SVreX (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
6/28/20 12:30 p.m.

Not yet. Life has happened, and I've had to let it sit for a couple weeks. 
 

Right now had to tear the garage apart to deal with a termite repair. sad

Slippery (Forum Supporter)
Slippery (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/28/20 1:50 p.m.

I was wondering if it would be smart to let it sit in some sort of solution for the time being. But not sure what that would be ... has to be something that does not harm the diaphragm material. 

I always had them in cars that I needed in running condition so I did not have time to soak them. 

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