Vw aircooled people

Alright. So Im building a new motor for my beetle and want to know how to identify which crank I have as I want to build up a stroker motor.

If you're increasing the stroke, does it matter what crank you have now? You'll be buying a new stroker crank anyway right?

Stock should be 69mm and you're probably going to use a 74mm crank unless you're planning on serious case work?

How many cc's are you planning on attaining, 1800cc?

Im looking into a 1776. Are all stock cranks 69mm?

69mm for the 1600cc's.

I believe the 1600DP's are all 69mm

You can use the stock 69mm stroke for what you're looking to build.

1776 is stock 69mm stroke with 90.5mm cylinders.

^^^^Yep. 1776 is not a stroker. I think stroker cranks are usually 78.8mm or 82mm. The 82mm crank with 90.5mm pistons is a pretty popular combo for a 2110cc.

69mm is stock. You can go to a 76 with no machining work. Anything higher than that requires machining of the block to fit.

For the barrels, you can go up to 88's without machining the block.

With the above, you could build an 1849cc motor on a stock block with no machining.

IF you end up buying new parts to rebuild it, I would HIGHLY recommend buying a balanced crank and then paying to have all the rotating parts spun balanced. It's usually not too expensive to do and will go a long way to a much more reliable and better running motor.

All of the above is based on a stock 1600. Anything smaller from stock (IIRC, even the 1500) requires more work and money than just buying a new 1600 block to start with.

-Rob

Thanks for all the info. I think for now Ill stick with the 1776 but who knows. The urge for power could strike at any minute.

Put a turbo on it.

One of our ice racers has one in a buggy chassis. Very quick.

Not sure of the displacement.

iceracer wrote: Put a turbo on it. One of our ice racers has one in a buggy chassis. Very quick. Not sure of the displacement.

Replace it with an subaru engine.

Last stroker engine I built was painless. I just shipped my case to Rimco and had them open it up for 82 stroke and 94 cylinders. A couple of days later they shipped it back to me. Quick and not financially that bad at all. I shipped the case in an Igloo cooler for protection.

Guy down the street from me is a wiz with bugs and busses.

John Allmond is his name John's Air-cooled 978-297-7645

Love going by his place it reminds me of my childhood home as my oldest brother was the go to guy back then.

Since there's no pictures, I'll add mine: 1973 Super, all stock except for the exhaust and bumperettes. I actually like the flat windshield and torsion bar and longer bonnet of the non-Supers more than what the Supers came with but this is what I had!

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The handling on the Super is light years ahead of the Standard, more than light years.

Toebra wrote: The handling on the Super is light years ahead of the Standard, more than light years.

So it wasn't just me? I swear that thing cornered like it was on rails compared to some of the stuff I've flung around the streets

lrrs wrote: Replace it with an subaru engine.

Where's the easy button for this swap? A full parts list of what one needs and a build guide?

I'm being lazy today. I did look around a bit on the webz yesterday and all I could find was a bunch of poorly done and incomplete build threads with little or no actual information and a few crappy photos.

The "easy button" in this case is to build a ~1800cc VW engine using your stock case.

EASY BUTTON

I did it, haven't looked back. I can give you a pretty good rundown of parts required and such as if the EASY BUTTON link doesn't give you enough.

JThw8 is a great resource too, he talked me into doing the swap.

In reply to JohnInKansas:

I read your trip log & that was what initially put the thought in my head, so I'm gonna blame you if I decide to follow through...

And thanks for the link! Off to read...

JohnInKansas wrote: EASY BUTTON

I have heard it was a fairly easy swap and have started building a list of what I will need. Will be reading through your post. I figure about 2.5K to do it all (NA motor, turbo would be more), and still have a bunch of the Subaru to part or crush for a few bucks back. Getting the engine in is not the scary part for me, its all the little stuff after, like so many projects you see for sale. The ones that say 90% done, I think not, if it were 90% complete they would finish it up and ask double. I want to make sure I am ready and prepared to finish.

Was going to go Subie shopping this weekend but back is acting up.

Thanks for the link to the thread, I have some studying to do.

Steve

I paid $500 for my NA Subaru donor, got the engine running on the stand, sold the leftovers for scrap ($350). Bellhousing adapter, flywheel and racing clutch from Kennedy Engineering was ~$600, miscellaneous other expenses (cooling system, exhaust, etc) were probably $4-500. My total to get the swap operational was around $1500.

I'm still throwing money at it though. :D

lrrs wrote:

iceracer wrote: Put a turbo on it. Then he would have to add a cooling system along with anti freeze and then wait for the coolant to warm up from 10 below. Now, one lap and it is ready to go. Besides, doing the turbo was fun. He says. One of our ice racers has one in a buggy chassis. Very quick. Not sure of the displacement.

Replace it with an subaru engine.