DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) UltimaDork
2/17/22 7:49 p.m.

Had I been blissfully unaware of the new cars I doubt I would have even noticed so far. The pit stops will look different , I assume, but otherwise it's NASCAR racing.

Edit: That should be "Duels"

 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
2/17/22 9:13 p.m.

Just got back from Race 1--got an invite from GM. My wife and I watched and had fun, but it was time to let the dog out. Also, no traffic getting home. 

Are the cars louder than before? We can hear them from inside our house, and we're about 15 minutes north of the Speedway. Usually we can't really hear them inside. This evening, though, they're way loud outside. 

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) UltimaDork
2/17/22 9:16 p.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

Watching on TV and my son and I both noticed that they sound different, but we can't tell if they're louder. The exhausts are different and exit both sides of the car now, I think.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
2/17/22 9:19 p.m.

In reply to DeadSkunk (Warren) :

During big races, like the 500, we can hear the cars when outside, but you have to listen for them.

I just got out of the car in the driveway and, yeah, they're louder. 

CAinCA
CAinCA GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
2/17/22 9:35 p.m.

It could be the weather. I lived about 1/4 mile from a freeway but I would only hear the traffic once in a while. 

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
2/17/22 9:47 p.m.

Boy oh boy, put four Fords in a row and they are fast.

And now, Joey just keeps blocking, and crashing because of it.  Halfwit, that boy.  What a maroon.  I say boy, I'm pitchin' but you ain't catching.

bmw88rider
bmw88rider GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
2/17/22 9:53 p.m.

I'll be interesting to see how they are on the road courses. I'll have a front row seat in a little over a month at COTA.

I kind of think it will take away a bit from the experience on a road course. I enjoyed watching the hippos trying to being nimble. 

Given where the exhaust is, I better make sure to have 2 layers of hearing protection to be trackside. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
2/17/22 10:27 p.m.

I wore my EarPeace ear plugs at the track, and it was fine. The sound just really hit me when I got home--like, dang, that's loud. So we'll see how the 500 sounds. 

Loweguy5
Loweguy5 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
2/17/22 11:33 p.m.

Every year we go to NHMS and I can't waif to see and hear these cars on track.  I think NASCAR really developed a good car here and hopefully it proves adept at road courses as well as ovals.

 

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
2/18/22 7:28 a.m.

I'm curious about the exhaust on the new cars.  I wonder if there is a packaging reason for the exhaust exiting so far ahead, or if it's just to be louder, or maybe just to have bright red pipes visible at Daytona.  

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
2/18/22 7:55 a.m.
DeadSkunk (Warren) said:

Edit: That should be "Duels"

yes

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
2/18/22 2:37 p.m.

A friend just asked me how the cars looked out there. I thought they looked much modern--sleeker with some actual definition. Plus the big wheels help.

The Mustangs bug me a bit, though. I get that they're going after the look of the latest Shelby (at least I assume so) with the center section of the front bumper blacked-out, but to me–on track and at speed–they kinda look like GT-R Nissans.

APEowner
APEowner GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/18/22 4:54 p.m.
Streetwiseguy said:

I'm curious about the exhaust on the new cars.  I wonder if there is a packaging reason for the exhaust exiting so far ahead, or if it's just to be louder, or maybe just to have bright red pipes visible at Daytona.  

The exhaust was originally intended to run down the outside of the frame rails, just inside of the door skins and exit in front of the rear wheels to allow for an aerodynamically desirable flat floor.  It was shortened to address some cockpit heat issues.  The fact that you can see them glowing red and that flames spit out of both sides of the car on overrun are just really cool byproducts. 

I think I saw that early on they were thinking that they could add mufflers if needed with the original configuration.  I don't know if that's still viable.  I don't think that the cars being louder is a great thing and might be an issue at some venues.

 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
2/18/22 5:00 p.m.

As the crow flies, we're just about 7 miles to the center of the Speedway. And I could hear those cars loud enough from our driveway. 

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) UltimaDork
2/18/22 5:17 p.m.

In reply to APEowner :

I've been to NASCAR races at MIS and I certainly don't need them to be any louder.

MotorsportsGordon
MotorsportsGordon Dork
2/18/22 5:26 p.m.
David S. Wallens said:

A friend just asked me how the cars looked out there. I thought they looked much modern--sleeker with some actual definition. Plus the big wheels help.

The Mustangs bug me a bit, though. I get that they're going after the look of the latest Shelby (at least I assume so) with the center section of the front bumper blacked-out, but to me–on track and at speed–they kinda look like GT-R Nissans.

The actual mustangs on track look similar to an Audi gt3 or dtm car to me

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
2/18/22 5:45 p.m.
APEowner said:
Streetwiseguy said:

I'm curious about the exhaust on the new cars.  I wonder if there is a packaging reason for the exhaust exiting so far ahead, or if it's just to be louder, or maybe just to have bright red pipes visible at Daytona.  

The exhaust was originally intended to run down the outside of the frame rails, just inside of the door skins and exit in front of the rear wheels to allow for an aerodynamically desirable flat floor.  It was shortened to address some cockpit heat issues.  The fact that you can see them glowing red and that flames spit out of both sides of the car on overrun are just really cool byproducts. 

I think I saw that early on they were thinking that they could add mufflers if needed with the original configuration.  I don't know if that's still viable.  I don't think that the cars being louder is a great thing and might be an issue at some venues.

 

One of my thoughts was that mufflers had to be, or should be, included in the design.  There are lots of tracks that mandate mufflers for all the locals, and a track at, say, Daytona, where a writer we know can hear them from 15 miles away...  That could be trouble.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
2/18/22 7:06 p.m.

Curious to see how loud the full field sounds. We'll be home Sunday--likely doing some yard work. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
2/18/22 7:06 p.m.

In reply to Streetwiseguy :

And seven miles away--15 minutes. Still, that's seven miles of stuff that should muffle some of the sound, right? 

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) UltimaDork
2/18/22 7:41 p.m.

If you're home tonight can you hear the truck race? 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
2/18/22 7:55 p.m.

In reply to DeadSkunk (Warren) :

Just stepped outside and I think I can hear it, but the chirping bugs are louder. 

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