In reply to OldGray320i :
It's reversible. If you upvote it enough it gets unbidden so the community can decide. It's a meritocracy.
In reply to OldGray320i :
It's reversible. If you upvote it enough it gets unbidden so the community can decide. It's a meritocracy.
Meh, if you don't like the restrictions, sign it up as a normal car.
What's the problem?
Are we actually mad or pissed or have I'll will about a state giving classic car owners a different option to register their cars? They could just get rid of it all together and people need to follow the "regular car registration".
Basically, the old law was : if your car is 20 years old, you can do whatever you want. So, a 2002 Toyota echo was considered a classic...
Now, they are putting realistic limits on it.
I have no issues with this...
My best friend has a 1947 cj2 with Michigan historic plates. As stated earlier August is no restrictions month. The rest of the year is limited to driving to or from a car show or a maintenance facility and maybe another reason or 2. Chris was driving the jeep to his winter storage spot and ran out gas. The wet behind the ears officer that showed up gave him a rash of E36 M3. It's the only time that I have heard of anyone having a problem with historical plates in Michigan
In TN, as well as here in AL, I have not used the antique tag option, as tags are not a hassle. I did use them years ago in VA. At the time the "rules" for antique tags there, were simply a list hand typed and mimeographed, with about ten rules: 25 years or older, no work use, only parades and shows, etc. or to shop. Same old same.
Then the vague:
no more than 100 miles (didn't say per what! I never did drive mine more than 100 mi / day)
And the kicker:
"To get its daily 'exercise'! "
I kid you not. Actual wording!
Over fifteen years ago when I lived in NoVa, I drove my stock TR6 with normal tags. I didn't want the restrictions that went along with antique tags, and the biannual emissions test wasn't so hard. At some point, Virginia changed from a sniffer test to rollers. The first time I took it in for that, the station let it idle for 20 minutes in 95 F heat before doing the test. By that point, the carb temperature compensators had opened and it wouldn't idle below 1300 RPMs. No amount of arguing that this was intentional because of the crank-mounted fan would convince the inspector to accept the results at "idle" even though the numbers were great.
I changed the registration to antique tags and never looked back. It got driven to work occasionally, but the shop where I worked on cars was near work, so I could always claim to be fixing something after work. It's British, after all.
The "except for August" rule for Michigan makes me laugh.
There's no advantage to classic plates for me in CO from what I can tell, other than the fact that registration lasts for 5 years instead of 1. All of my cars are on normal plates, although some of them are on classic insurance that includes use restrictions.
Florida goes by weight:
up to 2499 pounds: $14.50
2500-3499 pounds: $22.50
3500+ pounds: $32.50
But antique cars pay just $7.50.
On my 1971 Innocenti Mini, I noticed that the weight was listed at something like 7000 pounds. It didn't matter, the woman behind the counter said, since the model year overrode the weight. She said I could get the car weighed and petition for a change, but I left it.
For one, kinda funny. Also, it didn't matter. (Upon a little digging, she thinks Innocenti and Innovative trailers somehow got the same abbreviation in the system or something.)
In reply to David S. Wallens :
Fun fact for you. If your antique is considered a commerical vehicle you cannot get antique tags. They defined commerical to me as over 5000lbs. This happened when I tried to get antique tags for my 88 K30.
In reply to Stampie :
Another fun fact: Some people pay extra for commercial plates so they can legally park in loading zones and other places normally off limits.
It is amusing the first time you see a Prius or an HHR with truck plates.
Stampie said:In reply to David S. Wallens :
Fun fact for you. If your antique is considered a commerical vehicle you cannot get antique tags. They defined commerical to me as over 5000lbs. This happened when I tried to get antique tags for my 88 K30.
What about Antique Truck? I see that also listed at $7.50.
(Also, looks like Goat Truck also registers at $7.50.)
Way off topic now: back when I was in college, some student got the bright ideal to buy an old beat up flat-orange pickup truck (same model used by the college landscaping staff) and he'd park near class right on campus. Worked for awhile :)
In reply to kb58 :
Eh, we just vibin' now. Sensationalist misleading article is sensationalist and misleading.
I remember a webpage where a guy wrote about his parking exploits by inventing a fake company (something suitably generic yet imposing like Expedited Logistics) and plastered its logos on his generic looking white vehicle (maybe an XJ or Pathfinder) along with meaningless fleet numbers on the fenders. He would post up all the places where he got away with parking in places one really shouldn't, because it LOOKED like he belonged there..
In reply to David S. Wallens :
Why that was never mentioned. I also don't see a weight listed. I need to try that.
In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
As someone that drives a commercial vehicle, I'm amazed with what I get away with sometimes.
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Fueled by Caffeine said:In reply to OldGray320i :
It's reversible. If you upvote it enough it gets unbidden so the community can decide. It's a meritocracy.
Ok....
In reply to OldGray320i :
The cumulative up/down is displayed to the voter when they vote, but isn't displayed on the forum post after the vote has been counted. AFAIK. For example, check this out:
I downvoted your post so I could take this screenshot. But when I go back up to your post I see "0" as the up/down. Do you see something other than "0"? What if you refresh?
But check this out: looks like you can see the cumulative downvotes on a post by downvoting it, then hitting the thumbs down button again. The first time you see a -1, the second time you see the cumulative:
Stampie said:In reply to David S. Wallens :
Why that was never mentioned. I also don't see a weight listed. I need to try that.
I'm looking at the fees at this page.
rustyvw said:Same in Virginia. If you get antique tags, you don't have to get an annual safety inspection. The mileage restrictions aren't really enforced, I've known some people who drive daily on them.
It's those people that daily drive them that are going to eventually ruin it for the rest of us who use our antique taged cars for pleasure driving and not commuting.
Incidentally I always think the mileage limits are hilarious. I have four antique registered cars and only one of them actually has a working odometer (I mean 1980s German cars mever do) so I'm not sure exactly how that would be enforced short of some kind of GPS tracker.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:In reply to kb58 :
Eh, we just vibin' now. Sensationalist misleading article is sensationalist and misleading.
I remember a webpage where a guy wrote about his parking exploits by inventing a fake company (something suitably generic yet imposing like Expedited Logistics) and plastered its logos on his generic looking white vehicle (maybe an XJ or Pathfinder) along with meaningless fleet numbers on the fenders. He would post up all the places where he got away with parking in places one really shouldn't, because it LOOKED like he belonged there..
The parking for my workplace is about a quarter mile walk. But our building constantly has a bevy of commercial vehicles parked various places around it (hvac guys, electrical guys, it guys). I've always thought that if I just got a white van with a logo on it, I could pretty much park wherever I wanted to as long as I put a cone out on the street next to it and nobody would ever give it a second look lol.
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In reply to AngryCorvair (Forum Supporter) :
Look, these regulation threads always devolve in to the argument about the balance between prudent and necessary and over-regulation, so I stay out of that end anymore.
What I find problematic here is GRM, or you, or fueled by caffeine deciding what my sensitivities are, or should be, hiding posts to protect my delicate constitution. Trust y'all, you know what's best for me, right?
I had the temerity to state my opinion wondering as to how anyone might be offended by any of the previously blocked posts, and asked if GRM was like Twitter, where the group tries to stifle the guy or gal they don't like.
Clearly THAT was a mistake, that post is now hidden, lest others have their minds poisoned by my venomous prose.
Somebody decided the red stapler comment was an attack on the that particular poster - what if the other dude was just trying to riff on it and be funny?
Now we can read the hearts of men over a medium that's ripe for misinterpretation, eh?
Finally, if it's blocked, the site should at least show the number of down votes on the screen. How would we otherwise know it's not just one person deciding what the rest of us should or shouldn't be offended by?
Right now, it looks to be post blocking by diktat. And I know they're not "blocked", I can still open them up, but, I surmise it won't be long before "blocked" is the correct adjective.
In '98 or so, a friend of mine had antique tags on his '50s panel truck. With the lumber on the ladder racks. For his handy man work. After a few months, one of the local cops, off duty, bought him a beer at the pub, and mentioned he ought to put regular tags on it, 'cause civilians were starting to ask 'bout it!
One night, I was driving my '48, and a officer stopped me, wanted to ticket me for the tags. Tried to say I was not allowed to drive it at 10:00 PM on a week night. I showed him the "rules" DMV had given me. He was not happy. Tried everything he could think of, but... he really didn't like that I just had a goofy grin the whole time.
irish44j (Forum Supporter) said:Pete. (l33t FS) said:In reply to kb58 :
Eh, we just vibin' now. Sensationalist misleading article is sensationalist and misleading.
I remember a webpage where a guy wrote about his parking exploits by inventing a fake company (something suitably generic yet imposing like Expedited Logistics) and plastered its logos on his generic looking white vehicle (maybe an XJ or Pathfinder) along with meaningless fleet numbers on the fenders. He would post up all the places where he got away with parking in places one really shouldn't, because it LOOKED like he belonged there..
The parking for my workplace is about a quarter mile walk. But our building constantly has a bevy of commercial vehicles parked various places around it (hvac guys, electrical guys, it guys). I've always thought that if I just got a white van with a logo on it, I could pretty much park wherever I wanted to as long as I put a cone out on the street next to it and nobody would ever give it a second look lol.
Two cones if you want to look official. Unless you're MaBell then put as many cones as you can around the vehicle while taking up the parking spaces around you.
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