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David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
3/12/20 7:34 a.m.

Now to see if this impacts the 12 Hours. And everything else. 

Wash your hands, too, with soap and water. 

dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
3/12/20 8:06 a.m.

The Gatornationals is here this weekend. 100,000+ out of town visitors. I'm really surprised the NHRA is still going forward with the event unaltered. 

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) PowerDork
3/12/20 8:20 a.m.

In reply to dyintorace :

I've been to Gainesville for the Challenge. Where on earth do they put 100,000 people for the Gatornationals? The grandstands just are no where near a seating capacity like that.

06HHR
06HHR Dork
3/12/20 8:42 a.m.

Drag racing is unique in that the grandstands aren't always full.  The big draws are the top fuel and funny cars, and at Gainesville there are large open spaces in front of the grandstands where spectators "line the fence" to watch the runs.  So, the grandstands are full and the open area is full too, so that covers the 100,000.  When the cars aren't running, folks walk the pits or the manufacturers midway.  Gainesville also has a large campground on the southern edge of the property, and lots of tailgating in the parking lots around the strip so, yes that 100,000 number is correct, and on Saturday and Sunday it may be a very low estimate.  I planned to go to the first round of qualifying there tomorrow, I may be changing my plans..

BoostedBrandon
BoostedBrandon SuperDork
3/12/20 9:14 a.m.

2020 sucks already and it's still got a long way to go.

AnthonyGS
AnthonyGS Dork
3/12/20 9:40 a.m.
BoostedBrandon said:

2020 sucks already and it's still got a long way to go.

History will remember this year for far too many reasons.  It's definitely an e36m3 shiw out there.  My favorite is rich people using this as an excuse to rip off the middle class again via the markets.  It's brutal all around.

DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer UltimaDork
3/12/20 10:00 a.m.

Unconfirmed, but my buddy down in St. Pete just texted me and said General Admission is cancelled for the Indycar weekend

06HHR
06HHR Dork
3/12/20 10:03 a.m.

In reply to DukeOfUndersteer :

That's true, just posted in the Tampa Bay Times.  St. Pete mayor is holding a press conference this afternoon to announce if the race will go on or not.  Some confirmed cases at other open-air events around the state have swayed his decision on whether or not to go forward

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
3/12/20 10:05 a.m.
DukeOfUndersteer said:

Unconfirmed, but my buddy down in St. Pete just texted me and said General Admission is cancelled for the Indycar weekend

It's been confirmed. No spectators for St. Pete GP. The race itself is a question mark. 

And, yes, this is sucks on many levels. But together we'll get through it. We're strong. Take the necessary precautions, listen to a trusted source, and remember to breathe. 

06HHR
06HHR Dork
3/12/20 10:10 a.m.

NASCAR just postponed next weeks race at Homestead Races postponed

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory PowerDork
3/12/20 10:12 a.m.
BoostedBrandon said:

2020 sucks already and it's still got a long way to go.

You appear to be ignoring literally dozens of amazing firsts (or first-in-decades) for the U.S. 

I for one do not share your pessimism.

As far as the virus thing goes, people seem to be scared by the cancellations and temporary postponements of events. What they should do is see this as steps being taken to avoid an outbreak. And by the way, this 'ain't the zombie apocalypse.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory PowerDork
3/12/20 10:13 a.m.
David S. Wallens said:
DukeOfUndersteer said:

Unconfirmed, but my buddy down in St. Pete just texted me and said General Admission is cancelled for the Indycar weekend

It's been confirmed. No spectators for St. Pete GP. The race itself is a question mark. 

And, yes, this is sucks on many levels. But together we'll get through it. We're strong. Take the necessary precautions, listen to a trusted source, and remember to breathe. 

Thank you for this level-headed and informed reply!

In 2009 there was virtually zero actions taken to prevent the spread of H1-N1 that have already been taken now.

61 million people were infected in this country alone then and killed around 12,000 the U.S. and the deaths included a much younger population than this current virus does.

Drastic step are being taken to prevent the spread. These step should be calming not alarming.

BoostedBrandon
BoostedBrandon SuperDork
3/12/20 10:21 a.m.

In reply to ebonyandivory :

I'm not usually a pessimist, and I'm not ignoring the good that has happened this year, but if our usual life is being disrupted like this, and it's halfway through March, I can only imagine what's to come.

It's humbling to say the least.

Just think, people are freaking out because suddenly there's no NBA, there's going to be lots of sports events going on without fans, and a few celebrities have treated positive for this virus.

We're not hunkering down in bomb shelters, we're not dodging bullets, we're not worried about our next meal or clean drinking water.

This issue is the definition of a first world problem.

But I'm not panicking, and I encourage everyone else to stay calm and hold on.

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory PowerDork
3/12/20 10:29 a.m.

In reply to BoostedBrandon :

That's fair. I think with the monumental steps being taken combined with the proposed relief for small businesses and with the impending warm weather, vaccines, treatments and prevention that are boosted by the elimination of roadblocks, we'll get past this soon. 
 

Some of the problems are in the media. For one, there was a study from China (surprise) reprinted in mass media about how quickly the virus was spread on a bus. Alarming was the length of time the virus hung in the air and how far away "victims" were seated from the carrier. 
 

Now get this: The very last part of the article mentioned that the ENTIRE ARTICLE HAS SINCE BEEN RETRACTED but you had to read the entire article to find that out.

 So much misinformation, disinformation and facts being ignored, it's no surprise this is getting crazy.

Its VERY serious. I don't mean to downplay it but when no one blinks an eye at the regular Flu killing 20,000 people already... well what can I say?

We certainly don't need E36 M3 heads being to to self-quarantine themselves then attend a gathering of hundreds of medical professionals.

And it certainly doesn't help when the mere mention of China or the Wuhan Province gets us labeled as racists. But saying Ebola, Zika, German (measles), West Nile, Rocky Mountain... that's ok

Ahhh, I just love my Commonwealth  Of Massachusetts.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 UberDork
3/12/20 10:33 a.m.
ebonyandivory said:

In reply to BoostedBrandon :

That's fair. I think with the monumental steps being taken combined with the proposed relief for small businesses and with the impending warm weather, vaccines, treatments and prevention that are boosted by the elimination of roadblocks, we'll get past this soon. 
 

Some of the problems are in the media. For one, there was a study from China (surprise) reprinted in mass media about how quickly the virus was spread on a bus. Alarming was the length of time the virus hung in the air and how far away "victims" were seated from the carrier. 
 

Now get this: The very last part of the article mentioned that the ENTIRE ARTICLE HAS SINCE BEEN RETRACTED. So much misinformation, disinformation and facts being ignored, it's no surprise this is getting crazy.

Its VERY serious. I don't mean to downplay it but when no one blinks an eye at the regular Flu killing 20,000 people already... well what can I say?

I wouldn't trust any news and/or reporting from China on this topic. 

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory PowerDork
3/12/20 10:36 a.m.
DirtyBird222 said:
I wouldn't trust any news and/or reporting from China on this topic. 

X 1,000

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
3/12/20 10:42 a.m.

In reply to ebonyandivory :

Me level-headed? Thank you. Seriously. 

But, yeah, this has that pre-hurricane tension. My advice: Stock up (within reason), check on your friends and family, and take care of yourself.

Before you share some info, check the source yourself. Does it pass the sniff test? There's often a rush to share news. Do what you can to share vetted info. 

And wash your hands. With soap and hot water. 

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory PowerDork
3/12/20 10:45 a.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens :

Haha!

At work (a medical facility) an NP and I discussed how plain warm water, not even soap, and 20-30 seconds was more effective at cleaning the skin as antibacterial gel.

And your advice is spot on. 

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
3/12/20 10:55 a.m.

Thanks. We went to the supermarket last night because someone (well, me) forgot to grab yogurts when we last went shopping. Yeah, no hand sanitizer on the shelf--and no bleach, either. And not much TP.

But they had a ton of soap. We still have a jug and a half, so I think we're cool for a few months. 

Related, helpful info courtesy of Def Leppard's twitter:

AnthonyGS
AnthonyGS Dork
3/12/20 10:57 a.m.

It's definitely impossible to trust China.  I also see most of these cancellations as over reaction and political virtue signaling.  It's all borne out of the we must "do something" mentality of our politicians and low IQ citizens. It does nothing to prevent the pandemic only slows it.  Currently, there is no vaccine.  Hopefully smart people find one soon.

It's a highly contagious virus that is still largely unknown.  You'll recall I made a post about how fragile the economy is and many of you thought I'm off the mark.  I then told everyone to take this virus seriously and prepare.  Ahem....  

This thing is just starting to spread in the US.  We won't see the full impact of this for about 10 more weeks.  China is at 7.5 weeks by my math, putting them about 95% done with the buildup if it's a 2 week incubation period.  If it's 4 weeks they are 75% done.  It will get worse before it gets better.  Based on all the info from the WHO and CDC, I still believe prevention is only delaying the inevitable.  Read what doctor's are saying and avoid the mainstream media and politicians.  They pander to the stupid (media and politicians).  Before you say I'm off the mark on that, figure out who is easiest to sway but still has a vote..... (low IQ folks).

Unless you live off the grid, you or people you know and love will get this virus.  Fact is there aren't even enough testing supplies or tests being conducted to know the full impact currently.  

Worrying and over reacting won't change the outcome one iota though.  

Just like security, you are in charge of your own health.  Look after yourselves and each other.  Plan for many different eventualities.

I'm anxiously looking forward to 10 weeks passing with as little disruption as possible. 

 

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory PowerDork
3/12/20 11:10 a.m.

You act as though slowing it down is pointless. If the measures taken already were never instituted we'd be FAR worse off. You can't even calculate how many lives have already (or ultimately will) been saved even by the mere slowdown.

Its like saying "driving to the store faster to get there before it closes is pointless because the store will eventually close anyway."

And what are your calculations considering the current information is  5.1 day incubation period?

"New study on COVID-19 estimates 5.1 days for incubation period."

Source: Johns Hopkins University 

L5wolvesf
L5wolvesf Reader
3/12/20 11:11 a.m.
AnthonyGS said:

it does nothing to prevent the pandemic only slows it.  

I believe slowing it is the point at this point, especially since it is a pandemic already. Resources will have time to catch up and perhaps get ahead of it if it is slowed. Doing nothing allows it to spread at a faster rate.

06HHR
06HHR Dork
3/12/20 11:14 a.m.
ebonyandivory said:

You act as though slowing it down is pointless. If the measures taken already were never instituted we'd be FAR worse off. You can't even calculate how many lives have already (or ultimately) be saved even by the mere slowdown.

Its like saying "driving to the store faster to get there before it closes is pointless because the store will eventually close anyway."

The problem is it's too late to slow it down.  Community transmission began in earnest a few weeks ago.  The travel ban announced last night is akin to closing the gate after the horse gets out, for that to be effective it should have been done back when the initial outbreak was announced by the Chinese.   Instead, people were actively evacuated from the "hot zone" with little knowledge of the infection any one of those people could have been carrying.  

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory PowerDork
3/12/20 11:16 a.m.

In reply to 06HHR :

Sorry, but that's 100% incorrect. I'm not even sure how anyone could think that it's too late to slow it down. We clearly already did.

And by the way, the Chinese are to blame for any outbreaks whatsoever. And it's NOT a coincidence that of the most developed, open countries on earth, we in America have a relatively low incidence of infection 

06HHR
06HHR Dork
3/12/20 11:22 a.m.

We can't even accurately identify how many people in this county are infected at this point, because the testing kits aren't readily available to everyone as promised.  So you can't say with certainty that we have slowed anything down.  That's why all of these events are being postponed, spectator limited or outright cancelled.  

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