Adrian_Thompson wrote:mazdeuce wrote: I just had a dream on the way to drop the kids at school. What if they released a "track" version with a fixed roof with a Gurney bubble for helmet clearance. A fastback with tie downs in the floor for wheels. It could out 86 the 86. There HAS to be someone at Mazda that can think of something like this. They made that very limited Japan only fixed top NB didn't they? Call the guy who penned that and get him working!I honestly don't get why people don't like drop tops. But if you really want a hard top why not buy a power retractable hard top version, gut the mechanism. Build a roll bar and screw, weld, fiberglass the hard top in place?
Because I don't like open air motoring. I don't want a convertible. Buying a convertible and then leaving the top up, or putting a hard top on is a compromise that pisses me off. I know there was a time when 'roadster' and 'sports car' were synonymous, but in modern times that's backwards. The hard top is the real sporting version and the convertible is the gold chain mustache trying to pick up chicks half my age version.
In reply to tuna55:
I'll hit reply since I really don't like pop up headlamps. ugh.
Having seen the even smaller ones on a show car Alfa, I like the smaller headlights, assuming they can light the path.
In reply to mazdeuce:
Let's agree to disagree. To me a sports car is about fun. Fun can be had at different speeds, I love the feeling of the wind in my hair. top down motoring is a great relaxant after a stressful day. In days gone past when soft tops were floppy noodles there was more merit to hard tops. But now manufacturers car build soft tops without scuttle shake I'm more inclined to get one.
Maybe that is the difference between an everyday sports car and a no compromise hardcore sports (race)car?
Do you like your coffee with just a bit of cream or black?
Sniff petrols take on it 
Mazda has taken the cover off a brand new MX-5 which it says is lighter, faster and will bring increased pleasure.
As before, the new model has six speeds but, in a surprise move, switches to electric power. Another unexpected change is the shell which is now plastic, available in a range of five colours. Mazda says using this material saves weight and makes the new MX-5 ‘easy to rinse’.
Compared to the outgoing model, the new MX-5 is longer and has a little more girth. It also has a slightly rear-biased weight distribution thank to its two batteries in the rear section while the electric motor is in the newly designed front end which Mazda says is ‘smoother, sleeker and more realistic than ever’.
‘We listened to what our customers wanted,’ said Mazda spokesman Ann Summers. ‘Which was greater size, more vibration and more enjoyment, embracing the Japanese philosophy of “kanjiro-gan” or “rubbing one out”.’
The new MX-5 goes on sale in early 2015 and, with few rivals at this level, Mazda says it expected ‘complete penetration’ of the market.
UPDATE: It seems Sniff Petrol went to the wrong launch event last night.
Adrian_Thompson wrote: In reply to mazdeuce: Let's agree to disagree. To me a sports car is about fun. Fun can be had at different speeds, I love the feeling of the wind in my hair. top down motoring is a great relaxant after a stressful day. In days gone past when soft tops were floppy noodles there was more merit to hard tops. But now manufacturers car build soft tops without scuttle shake I'm more inclined to get one.
I'll admit that I like the idea of a PRHT. So that I can have a hard top for winter driving.... But I'm one that fully falls into the drop top camp- 99% of the top down time on my Miata was on a freeway in traffic- could have been any car that didn't have a top. Loved it. The fact that the Miata drove so well when I wanted it to was a bonus.
One more thing- I DO NOT CARE what other people think of me when I am driving. If you bother to stereotype me, that's your problem. Maybe you need to focus your efforts on other things.
Im sure its just the lighting, but to me - this image looks like red w/dark bronze wheels...looks the tits if you ask me! LOVE IT!!!
What makes me happiest (having only ever driven an NA) is that bloat appears to be minimal. I know that cars with the simplicity and weight of the NA are dodo birds in the new car game, but this appears to at least be a step back toward that design, versus the trend toward barge status most new cars are working on (Im looking at you Civic).
Crappy unveil, great subject matter. Mazda designers get 800 internet points, Mazda US Marketing gets minus eleventeen bazillion internet points, a very stern look from my father, and are off my Christmas card list.
chili_head wrote: Maybe that is the difference between an everyday sports car and a no compromise hardcore sports (race)car? Do you like your coffee with just a bit of cream or black?
I like my cream mixed with sugar, an egg some vanilla and whipped into a frozen mass. Coffee is black. There are no other options. Start adding stuff to it and you have a coffee drink, not coffee.
Do I have a problem? I think I might have a problem.
chili_head wrote: Maybe that is the difference between an everyday sports car and a no compromise hardcore sports (race)car? Do you like your coffee with just a bit of cream or black?
I like different coffee for different occasions. An Americano (with cream) for my morning drive. A real cappuccino for indulging. If you can get real fresh espresso not some stale crap I'll take a shot with brown sugar after a meal.
Sports cars are sports cars. Race cars are race cars. I'll take different cars for different occasions. But for all round, I'll take a drop top with a roll bar.
mazdeuce wrote:chili_head wrote: Maybe that is the difference between an everyday sports car and a no compromise hardcore sports (race)car? Do you like your coffee with just a bit of cream or black?I like my cream mixed with sugar, an egg some vanilla and whipped into a frozen mass. Coffee is black. There are no other options. Start adding stuff to it and you have a coffee drink, not coffee. Do I have a problem? I think I might have a problem.
Dont you have some insulation to work on?
We've just added David's notes from the reveal, too.
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/news/new-miata-official/
Tom Suddard wrote: We've just added David's notes from the reveal, too. http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/news/new-miata-official/
Looks like the cup holder is an add on to the side of the transmission tunnel. Not such good news for morning commutes.
In reply to Tom Suddard:
The more exterior shots I see, the more I like it.
Not a fan of that giant screen in the interior, though.
Do want.
tuna55 wrote: In reply to Tom Suddard: The more exterior shots I see, the more I like it. Not a fan of that giant screen in the interior, though.
+1- I really don't like how that looks like an add on. On a car that should be fully integrated for the driver, that looks terrible.
Looks like a CR-Z/Dust Buster.
I'm disappointed. I'd been holding out and waiting for something closer to the Mazda6/3 and this just looks squinty.
Guess I'm going ZO6 shopping afterall.
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
Quoting for great photos. I love the look.
alfadriver wrote:tuna55 wrote: In reply to Tom Suddard: The more exterior shots I see, the more I like it. Not a fan of that giant screen in the interior, though.+1- I really don't like how that looks like an add on. On a car that should be fully integrated for the driver, that looks terrible.
+1 from me, too. I hope that screen goes down into the dash. Were that my Miata, it would stay there, with a piece of black duct tape to make sure it stays down.
alfadriver wrote:tuna55 wrote: In reply to Tom Suddard: The more exterior shots I see, the more I like it. Not a fan of that giant screen in the interior, though.+1- I really don't like how that looks like an add on. On a car that should be fully integrated for the driver, that looks terrible.
I suspect that's a 'retracts into the dashboard' gizmo so that it's less vandal-tempting when the car is parked outside...
But you're right, that could be done better.
I'm simply astounded that it's close to the NA in height and length. Maybe I'm used to my lowered NA, but wow, that's going to be tiny in today's world of giant station wagons (excuse me, cross overs).
I doubt the screen will go down. They are become more and more popular. It's a styling trend. People like tablets and iPads, so manufacturers are mimicking them in their cars.
Adrian_Thompson wrote: More pics from Autocar, having difficulty hotlinking so here's the link to the page. link-e-dink
The caption on Picture 12 states the 2.0 liter will have 180 hp.
I'm betting it does retract into the dash based on the opening around where the screen sits, I bet it folds flat and then retracts forward.
There's no way it doesn't block some visibility towards the passenger-front corner of the car when it's up like that.
The cup holder design hasn't moved forward much.
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