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dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/23/11 4:44 p.m.

Is there one under 10K anymore? We could even brake it down in to categories I guess.

2 seat sports car

2 door coup/hatch

4 door coup

wagon

Mini Van (4 door hatch)

Anyway who is selling the least expensive new vehicular at the moment?

Mazdax605
Mazdax605 Dork
9/23/11 4:57 p.m.

I think you can get a Nissan Versa for under $10k

-C

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/23/11 5:34 p.m.
Mazdax605 wrote: I think you can get a Nissan Versa for under $10k -C

Not anymore, price bumped up for 2012. Same story with the Elantra. All new cars are 5-figures.

iceracer
iceracer SuperDork
9/23/11 5:45 p.m.

They are advertising the new Versa for $ 10995.

ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
9/23/11 5:56 p.m.

In reply to iceracer:

I'm trying to figure out why the Versa hatch costs another $3400... I mean, sure, it's probably automatically a higher trim level. But $3400?

Not to threadjack, but there's a funny one for you... At a minimum, the Versa and Mazda3 are only available in higher-spec models as a hatch, despite the apparent law of cars that says Americans think of hatches as cheap and won't buy "nicer" cars as hatches (wave bye-bye to the 318ti and C230, etc...)

mistanfo
mistanfo SuperDork
9/23/11 7:32 p.m.

I know the dollar has fallen, but $3400?

mmosbey
mmosbey GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/23/11 7:33 p.m.
ransom wrote: Not to threadjack, but there's a funny one for you... At a minimum, the Versa and Mazda3 are only available in higher-spec models as a hatch, despite the apparent law of cars that says Americans think of hatches as cheap and won't buy "nicer" cars as hatches (wave bye-bye to the 318ti and C230, etc...)

Nah, if that were the case, people wouldn't like the Porsche Panamera.

Maroon92
Maroon92 SuperDork
9/23/11 7:42 p.m.
mmosbey wrote:
ransom wrote: Not to threadjack, but there's a funny one for you... At a minimum, the Versa and Mazda3 are only available in higher-spec models as a hatch, despite the apparent law of cars that says Americans think of hatches as cheap and won't buy "nicer" cars as hatches (wave bye-bye to the 318ti and C230, etc...)
Nah, if that were the case, people wouldn't like the Porsche Panamera.

People DON'T like the Porsche Panamera. People DO like Porsche badges on the fronts of their cars...

pinchvalve
pinchvalve SuperDork
9/23/11 9:24 p.m.

The Suzuki Reno used to be $9999 with incentives, but I don't think it is available anymore.

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
9/24/11 1:15 a.m.

For the 2 seat sports car, the answer is...

Miata!

Cheapest RWD car is the Genesis.

HiTempguy
HiTempguy Dork
9/24/11 2:03 a.m.
neon4891 wrote: For the 2 seat sports car, the answer is... Miata! Cheapest RWD car is the Genesis.

Do I even have to begin to point out how absurd it is a Miata costs more than a Genesis? No? Ok then...

z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
9/24/11 8:16 a.m.

Are they still selling the Hyundai Accent?

I know 2-3 years ago, you could buy a stripper version with no AC/Radio for $6500 here in OK.

But who in the hell buys a car with no AC in OK.

Josh
Josh Dork
9/24/11 8:52 a.m.

In reply to HiTempguy:

Why is that absurd? Convertibles always cost more than mass market coupes. They cost more to build, they have a limited market, and the manufacturers have to work around a rollercoaster of a demand curve.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin Dork
9/24/11 9:07 a.m.
z31maniac wrote: Are they still selling the Hyundai Accent? I know 2-3 years ago, you could buy a stripper version with no AC/Radio for $6500 here in OK. But who in the hell buys a car with no AC in OK.

What? I searched for these used recently. Even used models are going for >$6500

I would love to be able to get a new car for that kind of money.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin Dork
9/24/11 9:08 a.m.
Josh wrote: In reply to HiTempguy: Why is that absurd? Convertibles always cost more than mass market coupes. They cost more to build, they have a limited market, and the manufacturers have to work around a rollercoaster of a demand curve.

Also the Miata is a better car

Josh
Josh Dork
9/24/11 9:24 a.m.
ProDarwin wrote: Also the Miata is a better car

Yes, there's that. Also if you think the Miata is overpriced now, wait 3 or 4 years and a 2012 Miata will cost twice what a 2012 Genesis does .

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
9/24/11 9:36 a.m.

The reason the hatch is more, is it has the larger engine. The $10,999 versa is the 1.6L/109hp base. And it would seem to be the cheapest new car in america.

HiTempguy
HiTempguy Dork
9/24/11 9:57 a.m.
ProDarwin wrote: Also the Miata is a better car

$29k for the Miata vs $25k for the Genesis here in Canada for base models. I am willing to bet for $4k I could make the Genesis better in almost every way. That buys KW Coilovers, a tune for moar powa, and a clutch type LSD (since I don't think the base comes with one).

ST_ZX2
ST_ZX2 Reader
9/24/11 10:24 a.m.
neon4891 wrote: The reason the hatch is more, is it has the larger engine. The $10,999 versa is the 1.6L/109hp base. And it would seem to be the cheapest new car in america.

Quoted for truth; the Versa has the lowest MSRP of any car. With incentives, there may be others that are less...but it is the lowest MSRP.

poopshovel
poopshovel SuperDork
9/24/11 10:43 a.m.

The Versa also feels like the cheapest new car in America. We rented one for a trip to Tampa last year. I seriously white-knuckled it all the way down. It was absolutely terrifying at anything over 60mph. Felt like driving on 4 flat tires.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin Dork
9/24/11 11:37 a.m.
HiTempguy wrote:
ProDarwin wrote: Also the Miata is a better car
$29k for the Miata vs $25k for the Genesis here in Canada for base models. I am willing to bet for $4k I could make the Genesis better in almost every way. That buys KW Coilovers, a tune for moar powa, and a clutch type LSD (since I don't think the base comes with one).

Not the thread for this, but I'd put money that a bone-stock Miata would crush a Genesis with 4k worth of mods on an autox course. Track it would probably be faster as well, but the gap wouldn't be as large due to the extra power of the Genesis. Not only that, "better" wasn't strictly in terms of performance.

On topic...

I've driven a Versa and it wasn't bad at all, aside from being ugly as sin. Its an appliance though, I didn't expect much beyond a moderately quiet, smooth ride, good gas mileage, and cheap. Certainly no worse than its competitiors. Actually, I kind of have to commend the programming for the auto transmission.

Josh
Josh Dork
9/24/11 4:17 p.m.
HiTempguy wrote: $29k for the Miata vs $25k for the Genesis here in Canada for base models. I am willing to bet for $4k I could make the Genesis better in almost every way.

Even if that were true (it's probably not), you'd still only be able to put the roof down once, and it would be a real pain in the ass.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg SuperDork
9/25/11 5:37 p.m.

Thread on my Elantra

Very happy with it

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/grm/another-appliance-thread-hyundai-content/34080/page1/

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/25/11 6:40 p.m.
Josh wrote:
HiTempguy wrote: $29k for the Miata vs $25k for the Genesis here in Canada for base models. I am willing to bet for $4k I could make the Genesis better in almost every way.
Even if that were true (it's probably not), you'd still only be able to put the roof down once, and it would be a real pain in the ass.

He's in CANADA. The point of putting the roof down would be????

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/25/11 6:42 p.m.
ProDarwin wrote:
z31maniac wrote: Are they still selling the Hyundai Accent? I know 2-3 years ago, you could buy a stripper version with no AC/Radio for $6500 here in OK. But who in the hell buys a car with no AC in OK.
What? I searched for these used recently. Even used models are going for >$6500 I would love to be able to get a new car for that kind of money.

No, it's true. That last-gen Accent could still come without A/C or cruise and was stupid cheap. My neighbor bought one for under $7K about 2 years ago. The dealers up here had quite a few of the base stripper models like that.

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