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David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
1/14/13 10:36 a.m.

This weekend I ran a track event with PBOC at Sebring in our $500 Miata. Had a blast, but what what a fast field. Lots of people brought Porsches: The GT3, GT3 RS and GT3 Cup were very popular choices. JG asked if there were any Z06 Corvettes in my group. Oddly, no, but there were a few tube-frame Vettes. I think I saw an ALMS Cooper Lites car streak past.

So, a question: What is your personal ultimate track car? Or is a Miata still the answer?

amg_rx7
amg_rx7 Dork
1/14/13 10:42 a.m.

properly modded FD RX7

Klayfish
Klayfish Dork
1/14/13 10:43 a.m.

Do I have to pick just one???

Aerial Atom
Lotus Exige/Elise
Corvette Z06
Miata

I could go on and on.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury UltimaDork
1/14/13 10:47 a.m.

Having never driven a single lap on a track, Id want something that I could afford to ball up and not go bankrupt. Also, consumables would have to be relatively inexpensive or Id never put a mile on it in fear of it costing me too much to maintain.

Im really thinking about building a no nonsense 1st gen S10 track toy - RWD, plenty of space up front for whatever I want to stuff into it, "dropped" and "V8 ready" examples are all over craigslist, and a real body-on-frame style construction leaves plenty of room for imagination regarding the build

Ive also been thinking about buying my first honduh...parts grow on trees, theres a million aftermarket options for whatever you want to do, and knowledge is abundant.

An 04-06 GTO, or an E36 M3 both seem like a great out of the box option at a decent pricepoint. Drive to the track with a small trailer in tow carrying a set of performance wheels/tires, pads, and a tune from a netbook - all should be swap-able in under an hour in the parking lot.

fidelity101
fidelity101 HalfDork
1/14/13 10:51 a.m.

Something I don't own or have to pay to maintain.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
1/14/13 10:56 a.m.

Caterham 7 R500.

Raze
Raze SuperDork
1/14/13 11:09 a.m.
fidelity101 wrote: Something I don't own or have to pay to maintain.

or that I can ball up and walk away from financially, for me that would be the Merkur

DWNSHFT
DWNSHFT HalfDork
1/14/13 11:09 a.m.

Cayman/Boxster
E36 M3
Elise/Exige
C5 Corvette

David

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/14/13 11:16 a.m.

Tough choice but in terms of just fun I'd go for an S3 Exige or C6, either one with Serious Aero, as a beat-everyone car I'd go for a Caparo T1.

None of those are very grassroots, for a grassroots option I'd go for an S1 Elise with S2 body panels (just for looks), serious aero again, and an Ecotec + 6spd swap. That should fit under the Unofficial $30k Grassroots Barrier.

jstein77
jstein77 Dork
1/14/13 11:16 a.m.
David S. Wallens wrote: This weekend I ran a track event with PBOC at Sebring in our $500 Miata. Had a blast, but what what a fast field. Lots of people brought Porsches: The GT3, GT3 RS and GT3 Cup were very popular choices. JG asked if there were any Z06 Corvettes in my group. Oddly, no, but there were a few tube-frame Vettes. I think I saw an ALMS Cooper Lites car streak past. So, a question: What is your personal ultimate track car? Or is a Miata still the answer?

So, did you pass anything?

JG Pasterjak
JG Pasterjak Production/Art Director
1/14/13 11:19 a.m.
jstein77 wrote: So, did you pass anything?

Tech

jg

aussiesmg
aussiesmg UltimaDork
1/14/13 11:19 a.m.

Exocet with a 5.0

dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
1/14/13 11:22 a.m.
JG Pasterjak wrote:
jstein77 wrote: So, did you pass anything?
Tech jg

Literally laugh out loud!

N Sperlo
N Sperlo UltimaDork
1/14/13 11:22 a.m.

RS200. I prefer a dirt track, too.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
1/14/13 11:25 a.m.

My ultimate track car is probably a former Grand Am BMW, Porsche, Caddy, or C5R.

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/14/13 11:31 a.m.

Z06 though I wouldn't want to feed it.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt SuperDork
1/14/13 11:39 a.m.

It depends on the budget, as right now I can't really accommodate a dedicated track toy. If I did, I'd like to have another C4 Corvette with the Z51 suspension package - it seems like it would have made a much better track toy than daily commuter (which is what I was using it for). Although given my (lack of) driving skills, it would probably make more sense for me to start off with something a bit less powerful and more forgiving, like maybe a CRX with a stock-ish motor and decent suspension mods.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla UltraDork
1/14/13 11:46 a.m.
MadScientistMatt wrote: It depends on the budget, as right now I can't really accommodate a dedicated track toy. If I did, I'd like to have another C4 Corvette with the Z51 suspension package - it seems like it would have made a much better track toy than daily commuter (which is what I was using it for). Although given my (lack of) driving skills, it would probably make more sense for me to start off with something a bit less powerful and more forgiving, like maybe a CRX with a stock-ish motor and decent suspension mods.

I think the thing I like most about the C4 is that even though it's crude, loud and obnoxious... it's relatively easy to drive and as long as you're not a tard easy to catch. Sitting at the rear wheel gives you as much warning about wanting to trade ends as anything I've driven.

Matt B
Matt B Dork
1/14/13 11:55 a.m.

Price-no-object - an ex-JGTC NSX (I'm sure actually buying one and importing it is simple, right? )

Realistic if I started making a bunch more money - Exige SC

Realistic on my salary - swap a 20v 4AGE or 3SGE BEAMS motor into my mk1 MR2, install the GC sleeves/springs I have sitting around, appropriate pads, and maybe some mild aero development.

yamaha
yamaha SuperDork
1/14/13 12:02 p.m.

On my current budget, the ti.....if I ever have berkeley you money, it'd be some type of ex/current GT car from Le Mans.....like a Saleen, Ford GT, F430, F458, Panoz, Porsche rsr, bmw m3 gtr, etc.

wbjones
wbjones UberDork
1/14/13 12:08 p.m.
dyintorace wrote:
JG Pasterjak wrote:
jstein77 wrote: So, did you pass anything?
Tech jg
Literally laugh out loud!

as did I .....

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/14/13 12:08 p.m.

Atom? No, I've been lucky enough to try it on track. There's better out there.

My personal ultimate track car trailer would have a Caterham 7 R500 and a GT3 RS in it. When I think about it, they're both the ultimate expression of models that have been honed with decades and decades of racing experience.

wbjones
wbjones UberDork
1/14/13 12:11 p.m.

how 'bout one of those ex-cup cars that Tim did an article on a while back when he drove one at Road Atlanta .. those big hogs have got to be a blast on a road course

bravenrace
bravenrace PowerDork
1/14/13 12:15 p.m.

Probably the TVR I just sold, but with a 331 in it.
Other than that, I'll have to let you know when I find it.

Ian F
Ian F PowerDork
1/14/13 12:17 p.m.

I honestly don't know... I bought my E30 for this reason, but now I don't trust it to drive to work, I definitely wouldn't trust it to stay in one piece on the track. I really don't have any interest is a pure "track toy". Whatever car should be prepped for some sort of competition class. A possible exception to this would be if I happen to come across a car for a Challenge build.

Cost no object: something vintage... like an old T/A car or something.

Cost is an object: something vintage again, but cheaper... and/or an F500.

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