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TIGMOTORSPORTS
TIGMOTORSPORTS HalfDork
3/13/16 8:32 p.m.

What would be your cheapest way to 200mph?

after watching a video of a Hennessey 2016 Camaro going 202, and dreaming about mile runs......

I'm thinking used police Hemi Charger gutted with a 200hp nitrous shot

vwcorvette
vwcorvette GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/13/16 8:35 p.m.

Delta airlines?

wlkelley3
wlkelley3 UltraDork
3/13/16 8:36 p.m.
vwcorvette wrote: Delta airlines?

Beat me to it.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
3/13/16 8:37 p.m.

Hayabusa on spray.

eastsidemav
eastsidemav Dork
3/13/16 8:38 p.m.

I'd assume a 3rd generation Firebird would be a good starting point. I think some used to even sell a body kit for land speed racing for it, before they got into diesel tuning.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/13/16 8:39 p.m.

A superbike with the speed limiter removed?

A lot of them are artificially limited to 186mph but could touch 200mph with a delimiting and maybe some minor tweaks.

Type Q
Type Q Dork
3/13/16 8:47 p.m.

If you have to be on the ground, a Shinkansen (bullet train) ticket from Tokyo to Osaka is less than $300. Combine that with a round trip ticket to get to Tokyo and you will have about 24 hours of flight time above 200 mph combined with 3+ hours on the ground above 200 MPH. You should be able to pull all this together for less than $2500.

tr8todd
tr8todd Dork
3/13/16 8:58 p.m.

Something cheap, slippery to the wind, light, and with enough room for a big ole V8 under the hood. I just might have something like that around here.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/13/16 8:58 p.m.

In reply to Type Q:

Well if you're going to go that way: Make friends with someone with a twin turbo Corvette or something. Ask for permission to make a pass with the car. Don't crash the car.

That may be cheating, but cheaters never perspire.

TIGMOTORSPORTS
TIGMOTORSPORTS HalfDork
3/13/16 8:59 p.m.

In reply to Appleseed:

No need to spray the Hayabusa - I watched one at Ohio go past 230mph without spray.

chriswadsworth
chriswadsworth GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/13/16 9:11 p.m.

3s Dodge stealth or VR-4 3000gt. The gearing is already there, in fact everything is there but the horse power. The last one I bought was under three grand in relatively good shape actually. After that its a matter of a ghetto turbo setup, injectors, fuel pump and a lot of prayers and nerves. A small handful of guys on the 3S forum have actually done it. While I haven't I believe it is only a matter of running out of room on a handful of occasions. It is a big ugly, noisy beast that gives little feedback, but at 180mph it is totally stable. Its not the coolest way to do it, but it is possible. I could be biased just because I have been working on it for 12 years.

Brian
Brian MegaDork
3/13/16 9:19 p.m.

Another vote on a Buse. Intake, exhauste, tuner, and gears.

Spoolpigeon
Spoolpigeon UberDork
3/13/16 9:29 p.m.

Opti
Opti HalfDork
3/13/16 9:31 p.m.

So are we talking standing mile runs? Because a 200 hit on a charger aint gonna do it, need close to 1K hp in most cars in the 3000-3800 lb range to get there.

An argument could be made for just about any common performance platform, because not very much is cheap and has a 1000 hp capable engine or trans, and once your building a motor and a turbo/supercharger setup and a trans to that level everything is expensive.

LS1 fbody, cheap buy in, Needs a built motor, a power adder, probably viper spec trans

Mustang, Terminator is about the only good starting point, probably 10K more than fbody to guy in, trans is probably okay, but will probably require a turbo setup and more than likely a built motor, heard rumors of a 1K hp stock bottom end terminator, but seen a bunch pop on less power.

Supra. Not cheap to get, dont have much info on these, but I think stock engine reliable max power levels is around 700 or 800whp. So built motor.

GTS Viper, probably aroudn 25-35K buy in, get an early one with forged pistons and they are good for about 800whp. So built motor, but trans and diff are probably good.

Other stuff I can think of are way more expensive (Gallardo, Ford GT), or would probably require an engine swap (LS, SBC, BBC etc) or tons of money on a stock motor (most 4/6 cyl cars).

When you get thread like this people say, get x car, slap in 6.0 LS, fab a turbo setup and boom your there but it leaves out all the small things that add up to a bunch of money on any car/engine when your trying to make tons of power.

All Im saying is when your modifying this heavily and trying to do it cheapest, you could probably start with completely different platforms and with good fab skills you could come up with many ways to do this for similar money, but it wont be cheap.

A buddy tried it Naturally aspirated with a big cube LS, and he made it 182, but I havent followed mile racing in a few years after the UGR lambos got real popular and the fast guys moved to 1/2 mile racing.

chriswadsworth
chriswadsworth GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/13/16 9:41 p.m.

I will attest to a 196mph radar reading from a Stealth RT-turbo with 8k in it plus the cost of the car. It could have made it with a little more space. That having been said the Busa sounds like a great idea.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/13/16 10:15 p.m.

FWIW, I've seen turbo 'Busas nearly touch 200 in the quarter mile.

DanyloS
DanyloS Reader
3/13/16 10:18 p.m.

Going along with the train theme the Mag-Lev train from Shanghai to the airport will get you to ~400kmh which is just shy of 250mph for about $20-$25 (plus its awesome because it goes along the highway for a few miles)

Otherwise 3rd gen Firebird or C4 Corvette are prob a good starting point

former520
former520 Reader
3/13/16 10:57 p.m.

I am another for the Stealth, 3000 GT if not a bike. I was in a GPS 178 verified with minimal modifications back around 2002-3.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
3/14/16 12:33 a.m.

Theres a stealth builder up north thats run confirmed 180+. The car has it. That being said, power/weight/aero are your friends. Bike wins all but aero.

Robbie
Robbie SuperDork
3/14/16 1:39 a.m.

To all the "trains/planes" people in this thread:

You are no fun. Also, you are working too hard and spending WAY too much money. All you need to do is shift your reference frame and notice that you are already traveling in excess of 200 mph in orbit around the sun.

To the OP, i'd start with the same car I would start with for just about anything else if I'm looking for most performance per dollar, the c5 zo6. Throw a nitrous kit at it and see where you get.

P.s. the sport bike crowd is probably right but I assume you want 4 wheels and two sport bikes is also not eligible.

novaderrik
novaderrik UltimaDork
3/14/16 2:22 a.m.

how about a 1993 Mustang Cobra?

this same car with a Coyote crate motor in it would be a beast..

ncjay
ncjay Dork
3/14/16 4:00 a.m.

The cheapest, easiest way I can go 200 mph in a car is this: http://royhilldragracingschool.com/ or http://frankhawley.com/

mapper
mapper Reader
3/14/16 5:58 a.m.
wlkelley3 wrote:
vwcorvette wrote: Delta airlines?
Beat me to it.

But your start would be delayed three hours only to find out that the plane was broken and you had to catch another one the following day. By that time, everyone else had finished and gone home.

Flight Service
Flight Service MegaDork
3/14/16 6:19 a.m.

Shanghai maglev, 268 mph for about $20

Oh you mean cars....

Junkyard LS2/3 with cam and valves springs to get it over 500 in a late model C4 with a little aero work.

Calculations say it should take about ~450 hp to hit the double century mark (0.33 cD and 19 soft frontal area.) That should do it.

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand UberDork
3/14/16 6:30 a.m.

$500 beater car and a 1 way trip up in a cargo plane.

My gsxr1000 with a gt2860 had no issues getting there, which is why I promptly sold it. Even 23 year old me wanted nothing to do with that. I'm glad that stinkbugs hadn't populated the region yet in the early 2000s as I probably wouldn't be healer courtesy of the combination of that bike, I81 and stinkbugs clipping the crown of the helmet. With that being said I strong discourage anyone from doing 200+ (or 230+) on a street bike. Everything is a missile at that speed, and every road imperfection potentially fatal, than after a ride you realize that you're the dangerous, unsafe, imperfect missile endangering others.

That bike is seriously what got me to take up skydiving and basejumping, it was a safer, more calculated risk.

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