What's the 2018 Challenge Sub Class?

In reply to pimpm3 :

Waiting patiently for a mid-engine, V8-swapped, Conestoga build thread...

This is why the family here at GRM is the best family. 

Oooooooh...... wagons. The wife is going to kill me, she HATES wagons.

pimpm3 said:

John and I were picked by the staff to head up the sub class decision-making process.  I had originally planned a long winded discussion comparing the benefits and pitfalls of the different options that were proposed.  You guys took care of that for me 

It seems to be pretty obvious that wagons are the popular choice.  I just got off the phone with him and we decided to go with the flow...

so with out further ado i would like to make it official, 2018 will be the year of the wagon...

Set your Craigslist searches to "Wagon"! 

MrJoshua said:

Wagons category of Gainesville Fl craigslist $200-$2200:

 

$1300 WRX

K20 Protoge-needs axles

Previously posted $950 of ruined future but thats ALLRiiiiight

wait, they swapped in a honda k20 and kept it auto?  

I can Make a wagon, I cannot buy another car.

So does that mean something like the “FarmBird” qualifies for this shindig???

^ what he asked.  Are we following the same idea as the pickup class?  If it looks like a wagon its a wagon?

$850 Volvo 850 turbo

$700 Ford focus wagon

$1000 96 roadmaster

5spd passat wagon

I like the sub 1300cc class or whatever. That sounds like a hoot. 

Ranger50 said:

So does that mean something like the "FarmBird" qualifies for this shindig???

minivan_racer said:

^ what he asked.  Are we following the same idea as the pickup class?  If it looks like a wagon its a wagon?

I still recommend that two rows of seating (independent of doors) = wagon; and one row of seating with vertical hatch = shootingbrake

ala "Aristocrats" and "Esquires" in $2015

Maybe "Full Monty" vs. "Half Monty"  or something catchier?

Now that wagons are the official sub class, I wonder how many Miatas will show up with mini truck toppers grafted on.  To that end, will there be a stricter interpretation of what constitutes a wagon versus a hatchback?  For example... hatchback or wagon:

Or

In reply to darkbuddha :

That is a wagon to me. Didn’t the rear hatch door open up fully unlike most others? That to me makes it a wagon. You can open the hatch door fully from roof to bumper, whether one pc or two.

I have my ideas just need to find them. 

Oops... I amended my post after your reply to also include an ef Civic, which has essentially the same design and profile, but I think most would agree isn't a wagon. It's a conundrum for me.

that civic hatch (and most "hatches" hatches) won't hold a full size spare in the cargo area with the rear seat up, right?

edit: thinking about this more... wheelbase might be the stricter splitline between hatch and wagon

Cross breeds. 

Japanese car, Swedish engine, ford in a chevy, etc

I want to build this:

Not a shooting brake. It's a wagon.

Should have read the whole thing. 

As much as I like wagons, cant justify a whole new platform. Unless a miata shooting brake would count, as i already have miata plans...

4 doors and started life as a wagon if my vote counts. I don’t want to build a cool wagon just to lose to a Miata wagon. 

It's like the pickup truck class, you know a wagon when you see one.

However, I am open to all creative interpretations, and I tend toward including anyone who wants to be included. Make an argument as to why your wagon is a wagon, and I'll probably be on board.

Hatchbacks are not wagon's.  An EF civic hatch doesn't fit the intent of the class. 

Now a wagon EF on the other hand...   Wagon attack!

LMAO if the XJR makes a return appearance. 

Hmm. Big turbo 240 wagon or motorcycle engine Opel...

Mr. Lee said:

LMAO if the XJR makes a return appearance. 

But is a cherokee a wagon?

On that same thought is a PT cruiser a wagon? 

I would say a PT Cruiser is a wagon.  A Cherokee is an SUV.