So, the title is really the question. What's the most successful high power FWD car that's run in a major international road race series? I'm not counting the aborted Nissan prototype that they gave up on. Production based I'm thinking old Super Touring, touring cars or F2 rally cars from the late 90's. the Super Touring cars were running over 300 hp form 2.0L NA engines and weighed 2,150 lb's. The old F2 rally cars were similar specs although a hair less power and could beat the 4WD WRC cars on dry stages with less power, less torque and obviously less weight.
HAve there been any real monster production based FWD cars I'm forgetting?
There have been more powerful FWD cars that have won international race series, but not road race.
NickD
HalfDork
3/21/16 9:08 a.m.
Chris Rado's ungodly 1200hp FWD Scion Tc time-attack amchine count?
NickD wrote:
Chris Rado's ungodly 1200hp FWD Scion Tc time-attack amchine count?
Much as it pains me, and it may not be an international series, but I guess so. What did it compete with RWD head to head in the same class?
Dodge Daytona IMSA GTU car
mtn
MegaDork
3/21/16 10:04 a.m.
I feel like you get to pick 2 of the three: Successful, high powered, and FWD.
The Miller 91 was FWD, a production model, and won multiple Indy 500s.
big front wings seem to be a winning solution on scion tc's
In reply to edizzle89:
I get it, but WTF?! That is just silly.
T.J.
UltimaDork
3/21/16 11:30 a.m.
Does 55 HP count as high power? What about if that was 160% more power than the original road going car?
FWD cars have won in a lot of major series before they went to caged "spec" racers. As we talked last week, BTCC was won by the P11 Nissan Primera chassis (G20 for us NA folks)in the 90's.
Robbie
SuperDork
3/21/16 11:59 a.m.
I would probably say neon srt4 is the answer.
One lap, touring car championships, land speed racing, rally, srt4 takes many FWD wins in many classes and types of racing. Good write-up on wiki actually.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Neon_SRT-4
Nissan GT-R LM Nismo
500hp Twin Turbo V6 Lemans Car, unfortunately cancelled...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_GT-R_LM_Nismo
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
The old F2 rally cars were similar specs although a hair less power and could beat the 4WD WRC cars on dry stages with less power, less torque and obviously less weight.
Especially when being driven by Monsieur Loeb, if memory serves
NickD
HalfDork
3/21/16 12:08 p.m.
edizzle89 wrote:
big front wings seem to be a winning solution on scion tc's
That's the same tC, just with a different paint scheme
In reply to NickD:
damn, your right, the wings just draw the eyes away from the other details
STM317
Reader
3/21/16 12:44 p.m.
Autolex wrote:
Nissan GT-R LM Nismo
500hp Twin Turbo V6 Lemans Car, unfortunately cancelled...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_GT-R_LM_Nismo
I'm not sure that fits the criteria since it was horribly unsuccessful and was really an AWD car limping around in FWD mode. It might've been more successful if they'd gotten the hybrid tech working, but then it wouldn't have been FWD anymore.
STM317 wrote:
Autolex wrote:
Nissan GT-R LM Nismo
500hp Twin Turbo V6 Lemans Car, unfortunately cancelled...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_GT-R_LM_Nismo
I'm not sure that fits the criteria since it was horribly unsuccessful and was really an AWD car limping around in FWD mode. It might've been more successful if they'd gotten the hybrid tech working, but then it wouldn't have been FWD anymore.
And specifically discounted in the very first post!
wvumtnbkr wrote:
End of thread.
Sorry. hte BTCC Super Touring build blow this into the weeds
Knurled wrote:
racerfink wrote:
Dodge Daytona IMSA GTU car
Came to say this.
This is new to me. Details?
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
Knurled wrote:
racerfink wrote:
Dodge Daytona IMSA GTU car
Came to say this.
This is new to me. Details?
I found a couple of sites including a comparison drive of the FWD vs. RWD. Sounds like Chrysler made both FWD and RWD versions, but only one complete RWD IMSA Daytona still exists.
http://www.bgperformance.com/cars/bg-performance-dodge-championship-winning-vehicle/
https://web.archive.org/web/20150910152526/http://home.comcast.net/~cvetters3/test1.htm